Re: THE COUNTRY of TEXAS

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:23:14 -0400, "Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Apr 18, 5:58 pm, "Hal Hanig" <halha...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Fine, succeed.

Then when the new republic of Texas or whatever its called
seeks
entry
into NAFTA and the US says no, where will you sell all your
stuff
and
provide all your wonderful services?

You REALLY want to agree to it? Have you thought about the
the CONSEQUENCES? Such as 65% of the refineries being
in Texas? Do you WANT to pay $700 a gallon for your gas?

OTOH, what'll it be worth to them if we don't buy it? We're
starting
starting to make nice-nice with Hugo Chavez lately.....I'm sure
he
wouldn't mind expanding his sales.
Hal

Nice. A quick switch from typical righwinger hysteria to how
the
real world works, in just 3 sentences.
There are other oil suppliers in this hemisphere, and there are
other ports in the U.S. It might be a great improvement to our
lives
to NOT have our energy supply and our educational system run by an
oil
oligarchy that fancies itself a nation.
Cut 'em loose, wish 'em luck, let them get back to us when they
rediscover agriculture and the wheel...


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They shouldn't let the door hit them in the ass as they leave.

--
If the South, parts of the Southwest and Midwest, Alaska, and Hawaii
either want to join them or go off on their own, should we object?



They aren't going anywhere. It's just republican BS.

But if they did? If a majority of Texans, Hawaiians, or Alaskans voted
to secede, what should the federal government do?


I don't know.... what do YOU think they should do? And by the way
Puerto
Rico also wants to secede. Throw them into your loaded question too.
--
I think that if a majority votes to secede, they should be allowed to
secede. What is the government going to do? Send in the army and have
a pitched battle with the Texas National Guard? Occupy Austin? Arrest
the governor? Re-education camps for miscreant voters? Censorship of
the Texas press? All pretty clearly unacceptable.

Perhaps Obama should actually work on gaining the support of the 48%
that didn't vote for him?



He's already tried that and it didn't work. What would it take for that
percentage to come around and support him? More tax cuts for the
wealthy?

How about a budget that doesn't run the national debt up to 82% of GDP
-- a number that would deem the United States to be too fiscally
irresponsible to join the EU?



The problem has been stated and restated again and again here. We are in a
serious recession. To stimulate the economy he's got to spend. To make
jobs happen he's got to spend. Unless he wants to do what GWB did, and
just hang out and let the country come down around his ears.

Sorry Evelyn, but you are wrong. The CBO is required to project the
consequences of the current budget out ten years. New spending
programs in Obama's current budget commit us to huge deficits in
coming years -- deficits that have nothing to do with the current
recession, and which dwarf the deficits of the Bush years.

Please be aware the annual deficits in excess of 3% of GDP are
considered by the EU to by fiscally irresponsible, and a national debt
in excess of 60% of GDP exceeds the limit for membership in the EU.
What Obama has done is lay out a road map for deficits in years to
come that looks like the budget of a banana republic. Here it is from
the Congressional Budget Office.

"CBO?s analysis of the President?s budget proposals indicates
that:

As estimated by CBO and the Joint Committee on
Taxation, the President?s proposals would add
$4.8 trillion to the baseline deficits over the 2010?
2019 period. CBO projects that if those proposals
were enacted, the deficit would total $1.8 trillion
(13.1 percent of GDP) in 2009 and $1.4 trillion
(9.6 percent of GDP) in 2010. It would decline to
about 4 percent of GDP by 2012 and remain between
4 percent and 6 percent of GDP through 2019.
B The cumulative deficit from 2010 to 2019 under the
President?s proposals would total $9.3 trillion, compared
with a cumulative deficit of $4.4 trillion projected
under the current-law assumptions embodied in
CBO?s baseline. Debt held by the public would rise,
from 41 percent of GDP in 2008 to 57 percent in
2009 and then to 82 percent of GDP by 2019 (compared
with 56 percent of GDP in that year under
baseline assumptions)."
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10014/03-20-PresidentBudget.pdf
.

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