Re: TWO In FIVE U.S. Adults Are Dolts -- Using Worthless But Harmful "ALTERNATVE MEDICINES"
- From: "Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:43:04 -0500
<Jim10293@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:j0htk411lelc5dhkld11gup8el8ve77ou3@xxxxxxxxxx
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:37:02 -0500, "Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:43:15 -0500, "Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
"Linda" <Indomitable2@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Dec 19, 6:01 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 11, 12:27 pm, "Evelyn" <evelyn.r...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The reason people are turning to alternatives is because they are
> completely
> dissatisfied with the state of modern medicine and the way it is
> practiced.
> The production line doctors office, the expensive drugs, the > hospital
> mistakes and infections acquired in hospitals...... the list goes > on.
> So
> they go back to the old ways.
> And by the way, Herbs ARE drugs, and in many cases drugs were
> developed
> from
> herbal medicines.
> --
> --
> Best Regards,
> Evelyn
The current medical situation represents a complete
breakdown in allowing a single system of medicine,
Oh?
Do you possess a shred of evidence indicating the percent of americans
who didn't buy into the shoddy bill of goods being sold by the
criminal cartel known as the American Medical Association has ever
dipped below 40%?
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I noticed that I have been responding to cross posters from the
alternative
health group. I don't subscribe to that group and I have no interest in
participating in discussions with any of you folks, although I have used
alternative medicines many times, and successfully, I don't believe it is
the be all and end all. Too many dead friends would testify to that. I
will no longer be responding to this thread or to any of you from that
group.
lol. Evelyn, It was entertaining.
Whether you stop responding or not, if they are sincere about all this
alternative mumbo jumbo, they will stop responding sooner then later.
Why do people waste their money and hope on such mumbo jumbo?
(CROSS POSTS TRIMMED)
There is good reason for some of these alternatives, and sometimes they work
because of the placebo effect and sometimes they work because there are some
real honest to goodness up front effects of the treatments.
I had a friend who did Reiki on my foot when I suffered from the worst case
of plantar fasciitis, having had shots of cortisone and limped around for a
couple of months in agony. She absolutely CURED my plantar fasciitis in
one session. I have absolutely no idea why or how it worked. It hasn't
returned in several years!!!!!! Now that was success.
Herbs really are medicines. They definitely work, and they are real
chemicals. Problem is that people think they are harmless vegetable
substances and mix them up with their medications, and can actually create
an overdose problem, or a conflict with their regular medication. You
really need a lot of knowledge to take herbs properly. I had a lot of books
and a lot of knowledge about them, and there is a medicinal herb farm, run
by a famous herbalist, right up the road from me, where they give seminars
on herbal medicine.
Chiropractors (spelled properly) are the best thing for a backache, but if
you recently suffered an injury, you should get an X-ray to make sure you
didn't break a vertebra or something. I have had back problems for years
and got excellent results from a chiropractor.
As far as homeopathic stuff is concerned, I think it is utter nonsense, but
some have claimed good results.
Strange to say, acupuncture has worked for me one time very well, and other
times not at all. Depends what you ask of it. When I had a shattered
shoulder it didn't do much for the pain.
As for the gazillion other kinds of alternative therapies, I really don't
know. As I told the other person, I know too many dead friends who went
alternative in dealing with cancer. The ones who did chemo and radiation
are still with us. The others are dead.
The one woman who went with a group to the great pyramid to have amazing
spiritual awakenings in the Kings Chamber, who declared she was healed, is
now dead of the cancer that she first had diagnosed before she went through
all that stuff.
The friend who has been going through years and years of alternative (you
name it she tried it) just discovered last week that for over 20 years she
has had Hep C.
For anyone who is considering alternative therapies..... go ahead and do it
to feel good. Do it as an adjunct to real medicine. Go to a real doctor
and get real treatment. ESPECIALLY if it is a life threatening illness.
--
There is a never ending line of those willing to sell hope to another
never ending line of people. We get so many years and trying to cheat
reality with all the plastic surgery, colonic or other fads of the
day, quacks and such is just silly. If someone special gets sick with
cancer or whatever, it is time to put all the effort out to understand
the problem and find best solutions. Sometimes the solutions are not
available and when our time is up, it seems better not to give up
precious resources to quacks. Better to leave them for the living is
my view.
Just within the last two weeks an elderly dear lady friend just had breast cancer surgery. She has opted for no radiation and no chemo. She says if it takes her, it takes her. Not sure that I necessarily agree with her, but it isn't my choice to make, and she is no dummy, she knows what she wants.
This past week, another dear friend, only a little older than I am, had her second surgery for bladder cancer. She is doing chemo and radiation and will be expecting repeated surgeries as this tends to recur but not beyond the area where it is now. It's a miserable thing.
A year ago a very dear friend died of pancreatic cancer.
If it were me, I would treat to a limited degree, but the people I have seen go through repeated rounds of chemo, endless disfiguring surgeries, untold pain, misery and expense, only to die of it anyway...... have made me think that if this sort of thing should strike me sometime, I might just as well take your approach and let be what will be.
Like High Miles always says, any day on this side of the grass is a good day!
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--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
Rest in a sky-like mind.
Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
Breathe like the wind circling the world
.
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