Re: Microsoft to release patch for IE flaw

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:59:51 -0600, "Glenn" <minorgo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:26:42 -0600, "Glenn" <minorgo@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:33:59 -0600, "Glenn" <minorgo@xxxxxxxxx>
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I know, but Vista dropped it, so how can one say it sucks if it's
dead. Perhaps it's dead because it sucked! Download the latest
windows mail for Usenet access.

OE still comes with XP. Windows Mail comes with Vista. Windows
mail
is just like OE, the interface is the same works just the same. I
always liked it, but I use Windows Live Mail now. I use it with
Vista
64 bit version nolw. It separates your mail accounts, (I have 5),
has
RSS feeds, (I have severaL).

Just because Vista dropped it doesn,t mean it is dead. There are
quite a few on this NG who use it. XP is now dead either.

I still use IE along with Firefox.


Gutsy, you went with 64 bits. I debated, but was concerned that it
would cause more problems than it fixed. How has your experience
been?

So, far it has been great. I've downloaded some of my old programs and
they work real well with them. Norton came with it, trial for 60
days. Just as soon as I fiind one I like I will dump Norton. The ones
I like they say are not suported yet by 64 bit except CA.

Of course XP is dead,

Dead -Yes and No, Free support will end Apr. 14, 2009 , but security
updates will still go on


even Microsoft can't afford to maintain
two operating systems for the same platform nor will OE see any
improvements.

They maintain just like they did the rest of their OS's.

Here is an article:
Top Story, November 13, 2008

How to maintain XP after Microsoft ends support
By Stuart J. Johnston

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said recently that it's OK with him if you
want to stick with Windows XP until Windows 7 is available late next
year.

XP lovers may still be able to buy a new PC with that operating system
installed for another year or so, but unfortunately, Microsoft plans
to end most free support for the OS within months.

On that date ? Apr. 14, 2009 ? millions of PC users, some of whom
bought their systems less than a year earlier, will be left in the
lurch. These users will have to pay Microsoft for Windows XP support,
although downloading critical security patches is expected to remain
free of charge.

The end of support is planned despite the fact that consumers can
still buy a new PC that runs XP rather than Vista, which was released
nearly two years ago. It's ironic that no less a personage than
Microsoft chief Ballmer tells users that staying with XP until Windows
7 ships late next year is a viable option.

What's a poor Windows XP user to do?

Third-party vendors pledge XP compatibility

Ballmer has said repeatedly over the past 10 to 15 years that the
stiffest competition a new version of Windows confronts in the
marketplace is the previous version of Windows. If the previous
version is "good enough," then a lot of people won't buy the upgrade.
XP just may prove Ballmer right.

According to a study by Gartner, there will be more than 1 billion
computers in use worldwide by the end of 2008. The vast majority of
them run Windows XP.

In fact, according to an analysis by Web analytics firm Net
Applications, some 68 percent of the client computers in use around
the world use XP. The OS's closest challenger ? Vista ? represents
just over 19 percent of the worldwide PC market. If these stats are
accurate, there are nearly 700 million copies of XP on the planet.

While Vista has been picking up steam in recent months, it has a long
way to go to catch up with its older, more mature sibling. Even if
Microsoft redoubles its efforts to market Vista, it's unlikely the
newer version could pass XP in installed numbers by late 2009, which
is when Microsoft officials hint that Windows 7 will be available.

Anyone who uses XP ? whether on a new machine or an early-2000s model
? has to wonder whether new hardware and software will continue to
support the old OS.

The answer is a qualified "yes."

XP's huge installed base helps to ensure that hardware and software
companies are continuing to support their existing XP users while also
making sure their new products will work with the OS. Every one of
several third-party hardware and software firms I checked with claims
its new products will be compatible with both Vista and XP.

For now, anyway, losing the support of third-party vendors is far from
the biggest threat facing anyone who sticks with XP. The bigger
problem is Microsoft's impending free-support cutoff date for the OS.

XP's support has been extended once before

Microsoft's policy is to support each version of its operating system
for 10 years. For the first five years, users get "mainstream"
support, which combines free help and fee-based services. This is in
addition to the standard patches and hotfixes that Microsoft
periodically releases.

The second five-year period constitutes "extended" support. During
this time, users must pay for support, aside from critical patches
that continue to be offered by the company for free.

XP will reach the end of mainstream support on Apr. 14, 2009, despite
the fact that Service Pack 3 for XP was released just last spring. (XP
first shipped in late 2001, so the end of its mainstream support is
coming more than two years later than is typical ? a testament to XP's
popularity.)

After April 2009, XP moves into the extended-support period, which is
expected to last through Apr. 8, 2014.

Under extended support, if you encounter problems installing a
security patch or other critical fix, tech support will help you free
of charge. Any other help from Microsoft tech support, however, will
be on a pay-per-incident basis. Microsoft currently charges $59 per
incident for help with operating-system problems.

If you bought a new PC with XP preinstalled, it's important to note
that you must contact your PC maker for all support. Microsoft has
assembled a list of phone numbers and support sites for major PC
vendors.

Even though Microsoft has cut off retail sales of XP, the company will
continue to allow PC vendors to sell XP Professional on new systems at
least through the end of January 2009.

Today, that's usually done by opting for the vendor's "downgrade"
license, which lets the buyer choose between Vista and XP Pro.

For example, Dell Computer says it will sell systems with XP as a
downgrade option through 2009 and possibly longer.

There are plenty of XP resources out there

Of course, you aren't stuck with Microsoft when it comes to your XP
support options. If you're looking for an XP device driver, and you're
not having much luck with the vendors' sites, try browsing through the
posts at various PC community forums.

Forums are great places to post questions and (hopefully) receive
answers from other users who have experienced the same problems and
found solutions. Microsoft's XP newsgroups are a good place to start.

Other useful XP support sites include the TechArena community,
BoardReader, and AllExperts.

You'll find all types of XP support from the members of PC user
groups, many of which offer live, in-person meetings where
participants exchange tips and solutions. Listings for Microsoft user
groups are available at the Microsoft Mindshare site.

These are by no means all the support options available to XP users,
but they provide a starting point to help you keep XP alive and well
until something better comes along ? whether another flavor of Windows
or something completely different.

Stuart Johnston is associate editor of WindowsSecrets.com. He has
written about technology for InfoWorld, Computerworld,
InformationWeek, and InternetNews.com.


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