Re: To Drill or Not to Drill



On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:24:07 -0400, "George Z. Bush"
<georgezbush@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jean Smith wrote:
In article <3qnr94pj5rg6s38945g13so3c04grtb1r5@xxxxxxx>,
El Castor <No_One@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 11:02:36 -0700 (PDT), California Poppy
<GoldenStatePoppy@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 9, 7:21?am, Rita <R...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jon Stewart clarifies this question:

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=178663

I think this was good and fairly presented. He seemed to make fun of
both sides.

I don't think it was good or fairly presented. The fact is that
offshore drilling technology is far different and much safer than it
was in 1990. Not only can we drill safer -- we can drill deeper. Every
day that goes by our dependence on the Middle East, Nigeria, and
Venezuela increases. We ship more and more money to those countries,
and for what? So they can spend it in ways that defeat our national
interests? Democrats have even blocked proposals to limit drilling to
50 miles offshore. Norway isn't as stupid as we are. They drill
offshore and produce more oil than Kuwait -- and they are continuing
to explore and drill as we sit around and discuss how looong it will
take. When was the last time you read about Norwegian beaches fouled
with oil? The tankers that haul oil from Saudi Arabia to our ports
present a greater hazard to the environment than an oil platform. We
have our left wing heads stuck in the sand on this issue. It's
symptomatic of the decline and fall of the American Empire.

This reminds me of the conversation about GWB being in the money losing
business of not drilling wells deep enough and saving the holes for later
use.
It should be time to finish them, eh?

Have you ever noticed that every time some Republican smartass sticks the
finger to Democrats for failing to or being unwilling to solve a problem the
way he would do it, the same problem has been there unsolved throughout
Republican regimes including the ones in which they've controlled both
houses of Congress?

It's a form of speaking with fork-ed tongue, an art form developed to new
levels by Republicans in recent years.....they accuse the other guy of not
doing the very thing that they've been unable to do. Jeez!!!! Do they
really think no one will notice?



Yes they do think that not enough people will notice, and
you know what, they've been proved right.

I was thinking of that while catching a bit of a Bill Moyers
program about 4:00 AM, in which two economist types were
calling the Bush/McCain solution to the oil crisis as drilling for
oil offshore and in the arctic simply "a fraud". They pointed
out, as others have, that the oil would mostly not be available
for a long time and there wasn't enough of it anyway. As the
John Stewart video Rita posted showed, the Republicans
at first admitted this, but as time went on the time was
shortened and shortened until now they're saying the prices
will go down immediately. And America is buying it, just as
America is buying that Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac are not
bankrupt and the execs deserve their hundreds of millions
of dollars for running those companies into the ground with
clearly insane policies. Why haven't those companies at
least been taken over by the government yet? But
Americans are mostly buying it. All any demagogue has to
do is call out "socialism" and he can get the masses right
back into line at being exploited by a handful at the top
who don't give a rat's ass whether the commoners lose all
their retirement money or not.

What John Stuart Mill said in response to a conservative
minister who was offended by something he said still holds,
roughly "I did not mean to imply that all conservatives are
stupid. I merely meant that most stupid people are
conservative. This is a fact so abundantly in evidence
that I do not think that any reasonable case can be made
against it."

I'm not too happy that Obama is bending to the political
winds, for example in not confronting the conservatives
about their lying about what drilling for oil will do for us.
On the other hand, I'll never get elected to anything and
he's already been elected a senator. That suggests
that he may know what he's doing better than I would.
You can't do anything if you don't get elected first, even
though what you have to do to get elected is really
cheesy and degrading. I have the luxury of not needing
to get elected.







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