Re: next the good jobs will go
- From: toci <gina39d@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 2, 2:13 pm, aw...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (arthur wouk) wrote:
In article <BeSdnUOIhuZMPgnVnZ2dnUVZ_v_in...@xxxxxxx>,
Alan Lichtenstein <a...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote::mg wrote:
:
:> It reminds me of the steel industry years ago. First the Japanese took
:> the business from us. Then the South Koreans took the business from
:> them. Now other countries, like Brazil and Vietnam are perched to take
:> it from South Korea. It's become a familiar scenario: first 3rd-world
:> countries industrialize then they eventually migrate away from low-
:> skilled, low-margin industry to high-end products requiring
:> sophisticated science and technology.
:>
:> The difference with China, though, seems to be that they're not simply
:> being pulled along by economic inertia. They're way out in front of
:> the game with a premeditated, carefully-crafted plan to become the
:> economic power house of the world. Will the US be able to compete? No.
:> Will US workers be able to compete? No.
:
:Only if we don't DO something while we still can. There are a number of
:steps we can take to stop China dead in its tracks. Without resorting
:to protectionism.
two points.
1) the demise of the us steel industry started in about 1950 when us steel
made a decision to rebuild the sparrows point steel mills in baltimore
(largest in the country at the time i believe) and went to old technology,
with which they were familiar. at the same time japan and germany, etc. were
rebuilding with the new technology (not the bessemer process) which was
cheaper, and more flexible. remind anyone of the other industries which
went under in the us? like manufacturing? it was a managerial failure. the
prosperity of the post war period in the us was not widely based on new
technologies. e.g., the video tape drive was developed in the us, but
only the japanese took it to production. the mangerial calss is to blame.
2) we have about exhausted the intellectual capital on which our economy ran
after wwII. i only get the details in the area of mathematics. the us
production of math ph.d.s is about 40% us 60% foreign. something similar
is going on in other fields. and the foreigners are not sticking around
anymore. for quite a while we have been funneling our intellect into the
financial industries, and that has come back to bite us. our research
establishment is weakening except in the military area, where we have put
our emphasis. (this is the only area which the gop believes is worth
funding.) as in teaching, so in research, you get what you pay for.
--
"be wary of mathematicians..especially when they speak the truth."
--sT. Augustine
to email me, delete blackhole. from my return address
Asia has over half of the world's population; the United States has
less than 5%. We don't need to "fail" in order for China and India to
simply claim their share- they just need to meet us in science and
math education. We will fail if we continue to let our kids goof off
to the extent they've done just recently. Toci
.
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