Re: Will Media Report Bill Clinton's Lingering Anger Towards Obama?

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Will Media Report Bill Clinton's Lingering Anger Towards Obama?

By Noel Sheppard
June 28, 2008 - 18:54 EThttp://newsbusters.org

While media gushed over Hill and Barack's kiss and make-up ceremony in
Unity, New Hampshire, Friday, a larger story was lurking in the shadows
without getting much attention: Bill Clinton is still very angry at the
presumptive Democrat presidential nominee, and he's not close to calling
a ceasefire.

In fact, according to the British Telegraph, the former President is
still on a war footing.

With press members itching for a united Democrat party, it will be
interesting to see how much attention this gets in the next few days,
especially the juicy parts (h/t Hot Air, slight vulgarity alert):

The Telegraph has learned that the former president's rage is still
so great that even loyal allies are shocked by his patronising attitude
to Mr Obama, and believe that he risks damaging his own reputation by
his intransigence.

A senior Democrat who worked for Mr Clinton has revealed that he
recently told friends Mr Obama could "kiss my ass" in return for his
support.

Well, at least the former President didn't call Obama a sleazy, slimy
scumbag. But I digress:

It has long been known that Mr Clinton is angry at the way his own
reputation was tarnished during the primary battle when several of his
comments were interpreted as racist.

But his lingering fury has shocked his friends. The Democrat told
the Telegraph: "He's been angry for a while. But everyone thought he
would get over it. He hasn't. I've spoken to a couple of people who he's
been in contact with and he is mad as hell." [...]

Another Democrat said that despite polls showing Mr Obama with a
healthy lead over Republican John McCain, Mr Clinton doesn't think he
can win.

The party strategist, who was allied to one of the early rivals to
Mr Obama and the former First Lady, said Mr Clinton was "very unhopeful"
about the nominee's prospects in November.

"Bill Clinton knows the party will unite behind Obama, but he is
telling people he doesn't believe Obama can win round voting groups,
especially working-class whites, in the swing states," the strategist
said.

Interesting that this comes from a British newspaper, isn't it? Closer
to home, the Huffington Post's Thomas B. Edsell, in an article entitled
"It's My Party, I'll Cry If I Want To" concurred with the Telegraph
(emphasis added):

The former president and Obama have not talked, and, by all
accounts, the man of the Clinton household remains hurt and resentful.
Associates provide a variety of explanations for the Bill Clinton
dilemma, none of them mutually exclusive.

Some say Bill Clinton not only wants Obama to reach out to him, but
to also promise to lift the cloud of alleged racism -- an accusation
that continues to eat at the man once dubbed the nation's "first black
president." Clinton, these folks suggest, wants Obama to publicly
exonerate him of the charge that he played the race card in the
primaries. [...]

"He is still bruised from the trail, really hurt about the racist
charges leveled against him, and convinced the Obama campaign fomented
it," said another source familiar with the former president's attitude.
"What he would really like is for Obama to apologize, but on one level
he knows that is never going to happen," a third source said.

Once again, with media trying desperately to unite their Party, how much
attention is this going to get?

On a related note, according to UPI, the former President didn't speak
to Oprah Winfrey at Thursday night's birthday party for Nelson Mandela
(emphasis added):

Oprah Winfrey and Bill Clinton didn't seem like they were on good
terms at Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday in London, a source told the New
York Daily News.

Winfrey has spent the last several months campaigning for
presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., whose chief competition
was Clinton's wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

Both Winfrey and former U.S. President Bill Clinton attended a
dinner in Hyde Park, catered by celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay, in honor
of former South African President Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday.

"There was a very cold reception between them," a source told the
Daily News.

I bet we'll be hearing a lot about this as well.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

It's the press and rumor mongers working overtime again. There just
isn't the facts to justify these crazy accusations. It makes sense
that he's still angry at the press for their reporting on his wife's
campaign. And he may have been asked by Clinton not to show up and
antagonize the press even more. They'll wind up covering him rather
than she and Obama. BTW I think that the coverage of that recent event
together is very weak. You would have thought that the press wouldn't
have paned it as they seem to be doing. To them, in my opinion, it
seems like a make up "performance" and not a sincere showing of
friendliness and party unity.

of course the joint appearance was "scripted" -- Howard Fineman
in Newsweek called it "a nice piece of pageantry" which it was.
And I believe a successful one. Nothing wrong with that. Gave
both Obama and Clinton an opportunity to show the party is
united and took over the media coverage from McCain for a couple
of days. Far more interesting for the public to watch on TV
than McCain's dismal speeches.

Choosing to hold the event in a town called Unity was brilliant
and both Clinton and Obama carried it off superbly.

Rita , I agree with you completely. It was a fantastic display of
unity. I have to admit I am not usually an admirer of Hillary but she
is absolutely NOBLE in how she is handling all this. I never did hear
either of them in any heated opposition or making personal attacks
along he way in the primaries. Obama was fantastic on how he was
"inclusive" of Hillary's own efforts. They knew from the very
beginning that it was about coming together no matter what. I actually
think I will have more respect for her as a Congressperson after all
this. I think her fellow Congresspeople will know she has lots more
support than they ever dreamed of.
I do not know the legalities of it all ,but I suspect her
and Bill have to keep their money separate,agra because of the voting
laws.

Any person who runs for President has an ego and Obama and Hillary
are no exceptions. But I believe Hillary as well as Obama does care
deeply about our country and especially about giving the middle/
working classes a better deal than they they have had under the
Republicans. I never get the feeling from McCain that he "feels
the pain" so many are dealing with. Actually the only Republican
candidate who came close in the compassion stakes was Huckabee .
Romney is a cold fish. Guliani a genuine egomaniac.

Had Obama not come along I would have supported Hillary happily.
It was a choice I spent some time working through.

I lived in New York state when she ran for the Senate and she worked
her tail off touring small towns in upstate New York and listening
to voters. Although she came into the state from outside it, she
understood New York's problems far better than Guiliani ever did on
his best day. And other than her vote for the Iraq war, which was one
of the deal breakers for me, she has paid her dues in the Senate as
well.

She was not well served by her campaign advisors -- while whether by
luck or by superior acuity, Obama has a campaign staff that is
simply brilliant.

I do hope for her a role in the future where she continue to serve
the U.S. I think the VP thing is far too complicated by the
fact of Bill. She can be a force in the Senate, or in a cabinet
post or on the Supreme Court.

Rita, you are a lot more cynical than I thought. I saw some a number
of clips on different programs and their feelings seemed to be sincere
and convincing. They're both committed to party unity above all else.
.

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