Re: Where do you stand politically ?

On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:34:49 GMT, Rumpelstiltskin
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 08:33:10 -0400, Gary <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 31 May 2008 11:58:09 GMT, Rumpelstiltskin
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 07:42:26 -0400, Gary <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


A short quiz says I am a Centrist.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html


Good grief, I came out as "centrist" too. I don't
think I've ever come out as "centrist" on a quiz
like this before.


Agree Government should not censor speech, press, media or
Internet.

Especially not the internet. That's the only place us "little people"
can broadcast over. Corporations do a pretty good job of censoring
the rest.

Dis Military service should be voluntary. There should be no
draft.

We need to draft everybody between 18 and 80, including crippled and
crazy. Ask them not what their country can do for them -- but what
can they do for their country. And then proceed to tell them.



Before Bush, I would have supported the idea of a volunteer
army. Now, though, I feel the Iraq war was possible because
the kids getting killed are out-of-sight of the general public. If
all kids were vulnerable to getting killed in war, especially the
kids of politicians with no country-club treatment as in the
case of the young GWBush, we might be more circumspect
about tromping off into a horrible situation like Iraq again.




Agree There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults.

As long as the conduct is moral and normal.




I presume you mean "by your standards".

Are there others ?

I strongly disagree,
because I strongly disagree with your standards that will accept
Hagee but not me. I don't want to ban anybody, but if I had to
choose between banning Hagee or me, without a shadow of a
doubt I would ban Hagee, and without a doubt I would regard
that as the only "moral" thing to do if I had to make that choice.

Have you ever heard people qualify permissable sexual behavior by
saying ---- "as long as they are all adults and don't cause
pain.." ?

Actually if it's a practice I disapprove of -- I like to hope they
will cause as much pain as possible :-)

Maybe Repeal laws prohibiting adult possession and use of drugs.

I am now of the opinion that the only way to curtail drug use is to
remove the profit motive for criminals -- and politicians. For that
reason I'd like to see drugs legalized -- but drug induced behavior
punished with immediate violence. We need to hire a lot of very big
cops who enjoy slapping druggies around.



There are some drugs, like Heroin, that are supposed to be
so destructive that it makes me cautious. Back in the 19th
century though, a heroin/opium product was very common in
"polite" society, called "laudanum". I've never tried, and
never expect to try, heroin, but I have smoked opium. I liked
it and didn't get at all addicted, though it's said that some
people do. In this area, though, you simply can't believe
what's said, because opponents are quite willing to lie through
their teeth in support of their conviction about the "greater
good". You may have heard of "Reefer Madness", a film put
out by the FBI or somebody like that in the 1930's or 1950's,
to propagandize how smoking marijuana leads young girls
into lives of prostitution and misery, and turns guys into
desolate gutter rats. It gets a revival occasionally, and the
("alternative") movie theatres in which it's shown are full of
marijuana smoke and hilarious laughter from the largely
quite-successful-in-life audience during the showings.

When people are paying $10 to $20 to watch a 70 year old movie it
shows they suffer at least a moderate degree of mental degeneration.
Could it have been drugs ?

One other drug comes to mind that I oppose because it's
so dangerous to other people, because people on it are
violent. That's PCP, I think, though I'm not completely
sure that's the one I'm thinking of.


Dis There should be no National ID card.

But only because we have so many illegals. Ten years ago I would
have "agreed".



Do you mean you would have "disagreed" that there should be
NO national ID card? That question I think was worded badly,
since you shouldn't have to answer "disagree" to affirm that you
agree with something.

I mean absent all the illegal aliens I would oppose a national ID
card. But with so much rifraff -- we need one. I am almost in
favor of passports between states. We need to encourage Pedro to
stay in Mexico.

Agree End "corporate welfare." No government handouts to
business

I'd go further by eliminating all taxes on Big Business except for one
single charge --- 30% of gross sales.



I think big business really needs to be watched, and there
should be dynamism in dealing with it. It's like fire, it can be
a big asset or an enormous threat. As with fire, I think you
have to be able to adjust your methods. In balance to that,
I agree with the Elizabethan idea that it's best for all society
if businesspeople are guaranteed security of their rewards,
but I do think we have to have some way of dealing with a
fire when it jumps out of the fireplace. Medicine, especially
the drug companies, and oil, I think have jumped out of
the fireplace right now.

I agree. My solution for oil is to nationalize the oil fields. My
solution for medicine is to turn over all medical and drug research
over to the universities. Then prosecute any drug company executive
who tries to sell any pill for over 50 cents. 10 cents if it goes to
a Medicare recipient.

Dis End government barriers to international free trade.
Dis Let people control their own retirement; privatize Social
Security.

This is pure insanity. Privatize SS and in 30 years you'll see 50
million seniors living under bridges and in sewer drains.



Yep. I only cavil that it will take 30 years for significant
suffering to show up. It will start to happen as soon as
some people have lost the SS safety net.

Sure, but we won't notice the victims until it's to late.

Dis Replace government welfare with private charity.
Dis Cut taxes and government spending by 50% or more.

We have learned under Bush that tax cuts mean more government spending
and more government lies. Raise taxes for the moral good of our
children.

This is shocking ! We agree on all of these :-)


It is kind of shocking I guess, since we do come from
very different ideologies in some ways, but I'm not all that
surprised that we agree, and we didn't quite agree on
"all": note my objection in regard to Hagee and myself.

Do you think many Southern men would have agreed with you on as much ?
Probably not. So why am I different ? I spent two years of my
childhood in England. That culture and those people had a great deal
of influence on me.

Remember that the next time one of Boraxo's supporters tells you that
while it is true little Barry spent five years in a Muslim country --
it had no effect on him. Anybody who will tell you that -- will lie
to you about other things. I know better.
.

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