Re: Why would anybody want McCain ?

mg wrote:
On Jan 6, 2:58 pm, "George Z. Bush" <georgezb...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
mg wrote:
On Jan 6, 5:47 am, Gary <n...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:32:49 -0800, Rita <R...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:27:45 -0500, Gary <n...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I see on CNN that McCain is in first place in the NH polls. I hate
to be cynical or even mildly critical of my fellow American voters --
but I have one question: Why would anybody want John McCain to be
President of the USA ? I wouldn't vote for him for Senator of
Arizona. And I don't have that high an opinion of AZ. It is
one
of life's mysteries to me.

Ah, but then I ran across the below item on Google News. Maybe
that
explains it. -- gj

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US Senator John McCain a favorite of Iowa Jews

When Arizona Senator John McCain took the stage the night before the
first-in-the-nation caucuses to be held here Thursday night, he
thanked several fellow senators who had joined him on stage to show
their support. But then he also mentioned another senator -- Joseph
Lieberman of Connecticut -- who wasn't present because he was
campaigning for him in New Hampshire.

McCain promotes his alliance with Lieberman, an independent senator
and Orthodox Jew who campaigned in 2000 as the Democratic vice
presidential nominee, to show off his bipartisan credentials, and his
reference to his "favorite Democrat" before the conservative Iowa
audience who had braved the cold to greet him elicited cheers. But
those weren't the only Iowa voters pleased at the reference.

Iowa's statistically small but politically active Republican Jewish
constituency has been pleased by McCain's relationship with
Lieberman,
among other things that have attracted them to the former naval
aviator and POW.

continued :

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1198517292703&pagename=JPo...

Gary, your nuttiness is showing again. Let me tell you there are
not many Jews in Iowa -- politically active or not there are not
enough to affect any political race.

There are some 6,000 Jews in the entire state, or .2% of the
population.

You have to live in a particular precinct to vote in a caucus
and Jews are scattered throughout the state, not enough in any
one precinct to affect any outcome.

And you think money has no bearing on the outcome of a political
activity ? Now you are acting nutty.

Here is the active phrase :

Iowa's statistically small but politically active Republican Jewish
constituency has been pleased

A small group donating a large amount has more clout than a large
group who just talk. Especially when everybody in that small group
gets a phone from the Rabbi saying : " Missus Feldsteen, are you
aware of how much John McCain has done for our beloved soul mates in
Israel ? Are you going to stand by and let them die because of
lack of funds to elect John ? Didn't he just say he'd leave troops
in the Mid East for a 100 years to protect them"?

And some people have the gall to complain about the evangelicals.

The interesting thing about the Jews, I think, is that their leaders
fully support American war mongering in the Middle East, while the
rank and file Jewish people don't. If that's true, it could help John
McCain with the Republican nomination, I suppose, but it might make it
difficult for him to win the general election.

I'll let you in on a little secret.....American Jews do NOT have leaders
per
se and no one speaks for them as a group. Put ten Jewish males together
and
all you have is the minimum number of men required to have a religious
service. More to the point, those same ten men will have 9 or 10
different
slants on politics and society. Rabbi Lieberman can't even claim support
of
all of the Jews in his home state of Connecticut because he'd starve to
death if he waited for them to agree to feed him.

George Z.

According to one website:

"Between 1996 and 2004, the Democratic two-party Jewish vote as
compared to the national vote has been remarkably stable - 28% more
Democratic than the national average in 1996, 30% more Democratic in
2000, and 29% more Democratic in 2004.
http://www.emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/donkeyrising/archives/001149.php

If you put any credence in that, you believe in fairy tales. Why? Because
in our system, votes by Jews in any election are impossible to identify
among the mass of votes cast by Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Buddhists,
etc. I'm suggesting that the numbers have to be figments of somebody's
political imagination. Whoever is putting out those numbers is trying to
make the readers think that the Scooter Libbys, Paul Wolfwitzs and Bill
Kristols of the current administration (just to name a few off the top of my
head) don't exist in the Republican Party when in fact they clearly do. How
many more there might be in the administration and in the electorate at
large is impossible to determine since we don't require our voters to
identify themselves by their religions. That might once have been true in
Nazi Germany but it never has been here.

About the only thing we know for a fact about Jews as a group is that their
numbers are estimated to be between 1.4% and 2.5% of our total population
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States) and that US
Jews who win Nobel prizes represent a considerably greater portion of the
awards won by Americans than their numbers would warrant.

You're getting your information from a blog, where there's no requirement
that it be accurate or honest if it doesn't suit the purposes of the
posters. What you're accepting as factual should therefore be more
accurately described as opinion IMO (as I've labeled mine, as you can
plainly see).

George Z.


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