Re: Security Guard - God Guided Me And Protected Me


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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:42:19 -0600, "Jean Paul" <jobbahut@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Me too! But I differ in one regard. I don't think faith has a better
answer than science or an answer because science cannot answer. I just
think faith answers when science cannot do so..........yet.

You think science will answer "Why are we here?" Ever?

(If so, you have more faith than I do.)

JG

I think I would say that I have faith in the "scientific process". It is a
process by which a hypothesis is made, data collected, a theory is
formulated, and then it is tested to death for eternity. I like that system
because there is always hope that if something does not seem right to you,
you have the chance and possibility of changing it.

Religion is an archaic way of relating to the world. It is simply dogmatic,
and if you don't believe it then you are a non-believer and you may go to
hell.

Yes, I think we already do have an answer for "Why are we here?". I think
the answer is, "Because we can be".


I almost always agree with you, Jean Paul, but here I come
down very hard on the same side as John.

That actually doesn't bother me at all. We were kind of piling on John there for awhile so it is probably a breath of fresh air to find out that on other topics, you, Rita and I would probably disagree and John might possibly agree with one of us.

JP



One proposed answer for existence is not really an answer,
but a response to the question of existence when framed
as "why is there something instead of nothing". That
response is "Why not?" That is cute, and does give one
pause, but it doesn't do the job for me. For one thing, the
question of an alternative to nonexistence can only be
asked if there's already an existence, which makes the
question of nonexistence versus existence a phantom
dichotomy. I feel sophists, and turtles, hanging around
that "why not?" response, though it is a much more
entertaining and intriguing answer to "why is there
something rather than nothing" than most other attempts.

That "why not" response is much like you get into
below, when you say "it was possible", but the question
"why is it possible" still remains. The "possibility of
existence", though it's not a material thing, nevertheless
is definitely not a "nothing". One way of framing the
question of existence might be "why is there a
possibility of existence?".

Even many in the scientific community seem to be
satisfied with the "why not" response to the question
of existence, but I myself don't see why they find it
satisfying.




Don't misunderstand my answer. I am not saying because we make a conscious
decision to be here. Rather, it is in the same sense of , "Why did the
Tsunami that struck Phuket happen?" Answer: Because it could.

Things happen, because they can happen. In a world of infinite
possibilities, given enough time, everything possible can happen.

Why are we here? Because in the set of possibilities, it was possible.

JP



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