Re: Really Cheap Breakfast

Jerry Okamura wrote:

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:48:19 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
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On Oct 28, 5:49 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As I am researching how to significantly lower the cost of feeding a
family
of four, here is a start. I am working on really inexpensive
breakfasts
first. But there are some idea that I have already checked into that I
know
are downright cheap. First among these is Oatmeal. Second on my list
are
pancakes (waffles would also be on this list....the basic problem with
waffles is you have to spend money of a waffle maker).. Both of these,
would cost less than $1.00 to feed four people. Third would be fried
rice.
I suspect, but have not determined the actual cost of them yet, are
biscuits
and french toast.


Protien is vital. in the refined mixes you mention it is a small
fraction amid too quickly digested carbohydrates... considered now to
be aprimary cause of the US diabetes epidemic.

rice and beans combination is high in complete protien. and cheap
when you buy in bulk. If you stay with brown rice (not processed)
then the carbohydrates are slow digesting,, if you soak the two for
a day prior to boiling prep cost is low. its a bit boring though im
sure.

If things get nasty, canibalism would serve a double purpose of
course... cheap meat, while reducing demand for other foods, that
would be a govt services specialty.... right now only wallets are
being harvested.

People who need food just to survive, first priority is to have the food
they need to survive.

If that is all you are trying to prove -- mere survival -- you may as
well stop now. Your examples so far would do no more than that.

I do not believe that was Islander's intention -- to provide a diet
that would do no more but keep someone alive. But a diet totally
lacking in protein and other nutrients can cause many conditions
and illnesses that in time could be life threatening. We see that
in very poor third world countries.


Protein Rich Foods
I think that one of the reasons that parents don't think that their kids get
enough protein in their diets is that they simply aren't aware that protein
is in so many different foods! Many foods besides red meat are high in
protein, which means that your kids are likely getting much more protein in
their diet than you think.
Common protein rich foods can include:

Milk
Soy Milk
Eggs
Cheese
Yogurt
Peanut Butter
Lean Meats, Fish, and Poultry
Beans, Tofu, Lentils, and other Legumes
Grains, including bread and pasta
Nuts and Seeds
It can also be easy to find high protein foods by reading food labels and
looking for foods with a higher protein number than other foods, such as
from 6 to 10g or more.
Protein Fortified Foods
In addition to foods that naturally have a lot of protein in them, parents
can also buy protein supplements, such as:
Protein fortified drink mixes, including Pediasure or Carnation Instant
Breakfast
Protein Foods Kids Like
Some ideas for high protein foods that can combine more than one protein
rich food, such as a cheeseburger, which includes meat, cheese, and a bun,
include:
Tuna Fish Sandwich
Cheeseburger
Cheese Pizza
Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich
Macaroni and Cheese
Grilled Cheese Sandwich

http://www.vsc.org/protein.htm

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

In the first place, I just started building what I think are ways to have
low cost meals. In the second place, the only thing I have listed are
breakfasts. In that list are pancakes which are made from flour which
contain protein. Milk contains protein. Pancakes are made using flour,
milk and eggs. for los cost lunches I would like peanut butter and Cheese
sandwiches, and grilled cheese sandwiches.

I have a program that gives the nutritional value of various foods.
Pancakes made from white flour do not have much protein.

To make pancakes you normally use milk and eggs.

Whole grains
have more and fiber and more vitamins and minerals as well.

You can make pancakes using other flours.

BUCKWHEAT PANCAKES
Ingredients:
1 cup buttermilk
1 egg
3 tablespoons butter, melted
6 tablespoons all-purpose flour
6 tablespoons buckwheat flour
1 teaspoon granulated sugar
1/2 teaspoon table salt
1 teaspoon baking soda
3 tablespoons butter




You need
not eat meat to get enough protein. You did not include milk as part
of your breakfast menus -- did you just overlook it or do you believe
children don't need milk?

No, I simply did not list that in my ideas of how to reduce the cost of breakfast. But, I did think that if fresh mild is too expensive, then you could use powedered milk.

I sometimes prepare wholegrain pancakes and
top them with fresh or frozen fruits such as strawberries or other
berries, not with syrup. And drink a glass of milk with it.

So, you answered your own question about pancakes didn't you? I would think the issue though is one of price. Though I do not know what the price difference is, I would think common white flour is considerably cheaper than whole grain flour. People who make pancakes out of whole grain, are not people who are having a very difficult time feeding their family, I would think.

Sometimes I make a shake from whey protein powder, fresh or frozen
fruit and yogurt. Very tasty and quick to prepare in a blender.
One scoop of the protein powder contains 21 grams of protein. The
yogurt adds 9 grams more. You can make these shakes with milk or
soy milk as well.

But I would consider a breakfast of only pancakes made from white
flour a very inferior breakfast indeed.


That is because you don't have to worry about spending money providing the foods you want to eat.
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