Re: I'd love to tie these jerks to a tree and spend an hour with a bullwhip on them.

Justine wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:00:26 -0700, Islander <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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JC wrote:
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To Reagan's credit, he listened to Weinberger and Congress and pulled our troops out of Lebanon. I suppose that some of you on the right, if you were ever consistent about anything, would accuse Reagan of a policy of "cut and run!"
Goggle it and see. I've accused him of that since the day he did it!!! And that's one of the reasons terrorists think we are a paper tiger and target us for more of the same.


Well, at least you are consistent. Wrong, but consistently wrong, IMV.
Being wrong in the opinion of a few folks has never bothered me. In my heart, and through my experience, I know I'm right. Bullies always attack cowards, not the other way around. And when you are seen as a coward, you're gonna get tested and tested often. And in the real word where the big boys play, that means a lot of people are going to get killed. That you have not tasted that is the only reason for your opinion.


Great galloping gobs of green testosterone! Now I understand why you do not believe in evolution! The human species survives because we are the biggest and baddest, not because we have the ability to reason. I'm glad that you cleared that up for me!
You need to grow up.


At least I have advanced beyond the schoolyard. You, on the other hand, seem to be laboring under a pretty severe case of insecurity. But, do not be discouraged. Even at your age, you might be able to learn something if you do a little reading outside soc.retirement.

I suggest that you start with Bacevich. I think that you might appreciate reading something by someone who knows first hand about war. Bacevich is a graduate of West Point and served in Vietnam. He also served in the Persian Gulf during Gulf War I and retired as a Colonel. His son fought in Iraq and was unfortunately killed last May. Like you, he is also a Catholic and a conservative.

So, instead of "knowing something in your heart" you might learn something from someone who has some expertise and who has earned the right to be heard.

I recommend that you start with:

The New American Militarism: How Americans are Seduced by War

My retired Special Forces colonel brother was and is also against the
Iraq war, not for strategic reasons, but because of people in this
country like you who want to lose the war for political reasons. He
figured it was over before it began, thanks to all you and your rear
view attitudes.
Justine

It seems to me that he is bending over backward to ignore the mistakes that the Bush administration and the senior military made in this Iraq misadventure.

If by rear view attitudes you are referring to an appreciation for history, then you must have heard that those who refuse to read history are doomed to repeat it. Surprisingly, Dubya majored in history in college but clearly did not learn anything.
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