Re: Stop Sign Cameras Installed in California

Jerry Okamura wrote:


"Alan Lichtenstein" <arl@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:i4-dnZ4v6Lyokg3bnZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxx

Jerry Okamura wrote:

A thought. Who do they issue the "ticket" too? The owner of the vehicle, who just may not have been the person driving the car at the time? Certainly, they are not going to spend the time and effort to "hunt down" the actual person who committed the violation are they?

"Gary" <nope@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:p9ev831vlj8qffk3vfpm98p2n9m846tjee@xxxxxxxxxx

California: Stop Sign Cameras Installed on Canyon Roads
A California park agency will ticket motorists with stop sign cameras
July 9. Speed cameras to follow.

Redflex cameraThe Mountains Recreation and Conservation Authority
(MRCA) has installed the first-ever automated camera in the US
designed to ticket drivers who make "boulevard stops" or slow to a
crawl at a stop sign without fully ceasing forward motion. The
little-known agency will begin issuing $100 fines next Monday, July 9,
at Franklin Canyon in the heart of Los Angeles, located off of
Mulholland Drive, and another at the top of Topanga.

The stop sign devices are based on red light camera platforms, but
they differ greatly in use. The more familiar stoplight cameras
typically photograph a vehicle entering an intersection if a signal
light changes to red between 0.1 and 0.3 seconds after the car crosses
a stop bar line (view recent report). With the new stop sign cameras,
a machine will make calculations to determine whether a vehicle did
not stop for a long enough period and deserves a fine.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1846.asp



We've had that for some time in NYC. The ticket is sent to the registered car owner who pays the fine. Unless the car was reported to have been previously stolen. Absent that, the registered owner is responsible. No 'points' are recorded against his license, however, as the camera does not provide proof he was driving, and therefore, cannot be held to administrative charges. I do not know what the procedure is if the car owner wants to prefer charges against the person who actually was driving.


Sounds kind of unfair to me. The owner may not have been the person who broke the law, but he has to pay anyway?

Yes he does. Because as the owner of the vehicle, he is responsible for it. That includes to whom he lends the vehicle. He should exercise more prudence in lending his vehicle.
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