Re: Immigration Bill Will Kill GOP


"El Castor" <No_One@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:9cq153hkkiqaujcd713ikle9evo69d2rka@xxxxxxxxxx
On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:52:58 -0700, "Jerry Okamura"
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"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 May 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

"El Castor" <No_One@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 08:49:51 -1000, "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

As I understand the demographics, like it or not, Hispanics are
becoming a bigger a bigger percentage of the voting population. ANY
party that ignores that segment of the voting public, it seems to me
is the one who is going to "destroy" their parties chances of winning.

I agree. Too bad that fear of illegals by most of the public has been
enflamed by the poor job outlook from free trade. IIRC labor unions
have been pushing hard on this issue. But I'm surprised that
Republicans haven't done the usual thing and grandstanded for the
public on this issue. It may show that they have a little backbone
after all.

Don't assume that all Hispanics support illegal immigration. A few years
ago a proposition went on the California ballot to end bilingual
education -- a system that was allowing Hispanics kids to graduate from high school
illiterate in English. A majority of Hispanics supported an end to
bilingual education.

Don't you think the two may not be connected at all, i.e. because they
support bilingual education, they do not support illegal immigration?

I voted for Bilingual education at the time. But it is a misunderstood
issue. You have to participate in it before you can speak with some
authority.

Theoretically, it makes a lot of educational sense. The school provides
both language instruction in English, and other subjects in the native
language of the student. But what happens in public schools is that
students that speak say Cantonese, spanish, tagalog, etc are all put into
the same bilingual education class (after all the bilingual teacher may be
the only one in the school). The obvious effect is that little is learned
of the other subjects, and since the teacher is trying to teach English to
so many different kinds of students, not much of anything is learned.

Mexicans would rather go back to the past flawed system where at least the
spanish speaking students might be merged into one class and spanish
speaking parents or other students could help them figure out what is
going on in the class.

All your example tells me is once again, government says one thing, but when
it comes to implementing it, they fail miserably.....

English immersion has been a success in California. Literacy and
fluency in English are the single most important factors in economic
success in the United States, and any school system which neglects
that mission is an abject failure.

No argument from me. Anyone who does not learn english is only hurting themselves.

.

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