Re: size of surge increased 2-3 times?


"Jean Smith" <gotermite@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:gotermite-08BBC2.00122920042007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In article <4627fc58$0$1364$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Jean Smith" <gotermite@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:gotermite-1D8A07.08350219042007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In article <4626ac79$0$9009$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0704180738460.24664@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0704170805380.7626@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0704160741500.25691@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "Crusher" <nospam.florab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>>>> news:46217ee5$0$5750$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> news:46215779$0$8983$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>> news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0704140127300.4239@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, rick++ wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Originally the "surge" was supposed to be a 20K troop >> >>>>>>>>>> increase
>> >>>>>>>>>> from 115K to 135K. But I've heard numbers 160K and 173K
>> >>>>>>>>>> discussed for this summer's size. That would mean a surge >> >>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>> 45K
>> >>>>>>>>>> to 57K. Thtas oprobably why tours were increase 25% for
>> >>>>>>>>>> everyone,
>> >>>>>>>>>> and home-time decreased (cut 80% for national guard). The
>> >>>>>>>>>> administration never mentions totals anymore.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Makes sense that the administration would try to hide the
>> >>>>>>>>> facts.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Why does it make sense?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Same reason they lied about the cost of the prescription drug
>> >>>>>>> bill -
>> >>>>>>> to get the appropriation bill past Congress without a lot of
>> >>>>>>> riders
>> >>>>>>> and questions about how the money would be spent. And because
>> >>>>>>> Bush
>> >>>>>>> lies for the fun of snubbing Congress and the public.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> My goodness we are back to the democrats favorite word of late.
>> >>>>>> Okay,
>> >>>>>> what "lies" did the President utter when talking about the cost >> >>>>>> of
>> >>>>>> the prescription drug bill? How many of our representatives, >> >>>>>> even
>> >>>>>> understand the word "truth"? For that matter, what politician >> >>>>>> or
>> >>>>>> what
>> >>>>>> supporters of politicians recognize the truth, when it stares >> >>>>>> them
>> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>> the face? Are there any of these turkeys, whether they are
>> >>>>>> democrats
>> >>>>>> or republicans, that know what the true cost of ANY of the >> >>>>>> major
>> >>>>>> initiatives they support? Isn't it common practice in >> >>>>>> Washington,
>> >>>>>> that to get bills passed that you have to resort to "bribery" >> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>> order to get enough votes to pass the bill? "If" you were a
>> >>>>>> member
>> >>>>>> of Congress, and you knew that they can pass the bill "only" >> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> your support, would you want to perhaps get some of your >> >>>>>> favorite
>> >>>>>> "pork" or other pet initiative that you want in the bill? >> >>>>>> Didn't
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> democrats finally succeed in getting their resolution on Iraq
>> >>>>>> through, only because they had all kinds of "riders" and "pork" >> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>> the resolution? What is the difference?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Republicans are starting to learn the word "lie".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Great non response....
>> >>>
>> >>> It's the truth, Jerry. Republicans are starting to speak their >> >>> minds
>> >>> now.
>> >>
>> >> What are they saying about the lie?
>> >
>> > The American people were deceived by Bush's words on WMDs. Do you >> > still
>> > insist that they are in Iraq?
>>
>> Depends on your definition of what is a WMD, but to answer your >> question
>> NO
>> WMD's anywhere near what we were led to believe. But, once again, I >> ask
>> a
>> very simple question, which up to now you absolutely refuse to answer.
>> WHO
>> believed that Saddam had no WMD's?
>
> The inspectors who had already been through their inventory after the
> previous war as I recall.
>
NO!!! read their final report....

...
Oddly, the most aggressively skeptical of the war's well-qualified
observers was not an intelligence officer at all. He was ex-Marine Maj.
Scott Ritter, the former lead inspector for the U.N. Special Commission
(UNSCOM) Concealment and Investigations team in Iraq. "There simply is
no evidence of a factual nature that sustains the allegation by the Bush
administration or British government that Iraq today possesses weapons
of mass destruction," Ritter told The Chronicle in late March 2003. He
stuck to his guns later, when U.S. officials or troops incorrectly
reported finding possible WMD sites early in the conflict.

You are a decision maker. There are many "voices" telling you different things about the issue. Some are so-called experts.... Who do you believe? How do you separate the chaff from the wheat? Is the issue the possession of WMD's or what they will do with such a capabillity?

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