Re: Supporting Speaker Pelosi


"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0704141543270.14090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0704140109180.4239@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Pine.BSI.4.64.0704121807440.29450@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:

Let me see.... As I recall, some of the leading newspaper editorials who are generally on "your side" also blasted her trip...so are you saying that they were "influenced" by "right wing" operatives? "If" that were true, then I say, "good for them"...I hope they are more successful, more often....

Some editors like to stir the pot. It boosts their readership. Maybe they're jealous that they weren't invited along for the trip? Whatever....

Americans should be aware that we let the President lie to us on Iraq. Let's not let that happen with Syria and [Iran]. She's just doing her job.

Oh my goodness...you guys on the left just can't stop telling the same old lie over and over again. It is called a double standard, or hypocrisy, or an outright lie. Calling someone else a liar, while lying yourself, is not a very good way to start a conversation... None of you has ever been able to prove that the guy "lied" and when asked to support your claim that he "lied", you simply ignore answering the questions asked, or come up with another "lame excuse" which has nothing to do with the question asked.

Of course it's hard to prove lying, because the president refuses to testify. Hopefully the Democrats will continue to investigate this point. For example, regarding uranium allegation which is false, as the president, the buck stops at him for this lie. He has to take responsibility for that. It's not enough for him to say that "mistakes were made".

So, you admit that you do not know if he lied or not, yet you insist on calling him a liar? As for the uranium argument, can you say with absolute certainly that he knew what he said about the uranium was false? Because if you cannot prove that, then you do not know if he "lied" or not, do you?

Jerry, you're just splitting hairs and being silly here. The president needs to be accountable for giving wrong information to the people. He really can't blame anybody else. In fact, he should be cooperating with Congress to see just who is lying in his administration as Congress does it's job of oversight of the administration. I suspect that the President will have to take the blame until we can find out who has been lying to him. With that said, most people feel that Cheney and Rove have been feeding a lot of fantasy about the war to the president.

I AM NOT SPLITTING HAIRS!! If you are going to accuse SOMEONE, ANYONE of lying, than back it up with hard indisputable facts, that NO ONE can dispute....

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