Re: Educational Posting


"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I'm diasppointed that you choose to cloud the issue with your own
opinions. And then blame someone else for your misunderstanding. As is
said of the candidates for judge here in Hawaii: everyone says he's a
good lawyer, but those who have worked under him say that he has a
broken moral compass and mistreats and abuses anyone who he doesn't
consider his intellectual equal. He doesn't have the temperament to be a
judge.

<chuckle> my "misunderstanding"? OK...here - word for word - is your
response of 3/15 at 10:33am

"I think that you will find many models that would be applicable for
different families. But what is the basic issue here? I think that the
basic issue of accountability here is applicable. So that would require a
business model where the school is responsible for student outcomes-- the
bottom line. How they do it (we are assuming legal methods here) is up to
the school."

I submit that in those words of yours is nothing referencing - as I said
in my response of 3/15 at 12:15pm - "...where *you* stand.vis a vis your
previous comments and the model I present as being consistent and
supportive of those comments. I've read over several times this response
of yours and cannot find any reference whatever to where you stand as per
the presented model".

I see that you only want to talk about something other than what the
thread is about. I am not interested in that. Since you don't want to
discuss the thread topic either there's no point in continuing. I don't
respond to trolls.

See! There you go again...casting innuendoes far and near. What I wanted
to talk about was clarification of what you yourself said in this thread. I
presented a model which I thought consistent with and supporting your own
words. No more and no less. That I have never deviated from. I will note
that you have yet - even after these many days - commented on the presented
model despite having had many opportunities to do so. You've done a lot of
your usual octopus tactics, having - once again - not addressed the issue
(the presented model) at hand

In fact, I make note that this response of yours ducks my asking where in
your 3/15 10:33am post of five (5) sentences you address the presented
model. Could you be ducking because nowhere in those five (5) sentences you
address the presented model? If so, why not just come out and say so
instead of this name calling and irrelevancy? You've said I misunderstand
your 3/15 10:33am post and yet remain completely silent (except for your
octopus tactics) when I pointed out that in those five (5) sentences of the
post I can find not a smidgen of where you stand vis a vis my presented
model and invited you to cite where amid those five (5) sentences you state
your stance. Alvin, for your benefit - just in case you misunderstand my
point...

The first sentence of your 3/15 10:33am post:
"I think that you will find many models that would be applicable for
different families."
Nothing here about the model I presented, though there is an irrelevant
reference to "many models". So as far as my presented model is concerned,
this sentence is a non sequitur.

The second sentence of your 3/15 10:33am post:
"But what is the basic issue here?"
Nothing here either about the model I presented. Another irrelevant
statement as per my presented model.

The third sentence of your 3/15 10:33am post:
"I think that the basic issue of accountability here is applicable."
That's fine, but does this thought of yours address where you stand vis a
vis my presented model? Answer - it does not. At best, another red
herring. Certainly a non sequitur.

The fourth sentence of your 3/15 10:33am post:
"So that would require a business model where the school is responsible for
student outcomes-- the bottom line."
This sentence talks "a business model"....any business model..."where the
school is responsible for student outcomes". Does it address the specific
one I presented? No way. Does it discuss where you agree and where you
disagree with my presented model? Nope. Another red herring.

The fifth - and final - sentence of your 3/15 10:33am post:
"How they do it (we are assuming legal methods here) is up to the school."
Once again - for the fifth time in this post - nothing about my presented
model nor where you stand on it. Yet another non sequitur.

So, Alvin, exactly where in my analysis of the five (5) sentences comprising
your 3/15 10:33am post lies my misunderstanding?

Note, Alvin, that in this very response of mine - like all others in this
thread - runs the key theme of the presented model, which model being
consistent with and supportive of your words in this thread. The key, base
concept is those very words that you yourself wrote in this thread. Surely
you stand behind your own words?

And then you accuse me of wanting "...to talk about something than what the
thread is about. I am not interested in that." As I pointedly said, once
someone tries to clarify or question what you say, "... down descends that
octopus cloud of irrelevancies, non sequiturs, innuendoes, and red
herrings." And yet again you've done exactly that.


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