Re: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED / WE GOT THE OIL


"mg" <mgkelson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1173202867.198013.258480@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Mar 5, 3:13 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"mg" <mgkel...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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> On Mar 4, 8:02 pm, "George Z. Bush" <georgezb...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> mg wrote:
>> > On Mar 3, 4:59 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > wrote:

>> (Snip)

>> > I believe that a really good, pragmatic way to go forward with this
>> > legal/illegal debate would be for George Bush to provide to Congress
>> > and the American people copies of the documents he received relating
>> > to his legal advice on going to war. The Democrats are in charge of
>> > Congress now and I don't see why they shouldn't demand copies these
>> > documents.

>> That's not going to happen because a feature of our system called
>> "executive
>> privilege" which stems from the checks and balances written into our
>> Constitution by our Founding Fathers. Those checks and balances were
>> deliberately put in place to keep the executive branch from passing >> laws
>> and to
>> keep the legislature from running wars and/or enforcing the very laws
>> they
>> passed, and to keep both branches from sitting in judgement of the >> fruits
>> of the
>> judicial system.

>> Parenthetically, the legal advice you think might be useful to >> evaluate
>> is
>> considered to be what probably would be called "working papers" and as
>> such
>> would be considered inappropriate evidence since the matter >> legitimately
>> investigated has to be limited to the action taken rather than the
>> thinking
>> (and/or advice) considered leading to that action. Members of the
>> executive
>> branch are entitled under the law to receive advice and >> recommendations
>> from
>> staff members in the course of making decisions and the acceptance or
>> rejection
>> of that advice (in whole or in part) is judicially immaterial to the
>> decisions
>> being reviewed.

>> (Snip)

>> George Z.

> One has to be awestruck at the power a dishonest president of the
> United States can wield when he controls both houses of Congress and,
> to a large extent, the media also.

You are talking about Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Carter?- Hide quoted text -

The media monopolies didn't emerge until Ronald Reagan decided
competition wasn't good for America and let the giant media chains
gobble up the small ones. If you go to:
http://www.corporations.org/media/ you'll see a chart that shows the
"Number of corporations that control a majority of U.S. media" has
gone from 50 in 1983 to 5 in 2004. Here's a quote:

Pure foolishness. Prior to the advent of Cable TV and the Internet, the "only" source for information and news was for all practical purposes the newspapers and the three big TV networks (and their affilitates). Today, you have a whole range of new sources to get the news and it is not restricted to only those that are generated in the United States, you can if you want, read the news from just about any news source from anywhere in the world, thanks to the internet. If anything, we have too much information.

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