Re: before katrina


"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Only you would make just an assumption.

And you the opposite assumption?

The burden of proof is on you Jerry. As far as I know, almost no
teachers make regular home visits to the families of the kids that are
causing problems in class.

It has nothing to do with "proof". Are you going to argue that the
children would not be better off, "if" teachers did take the time to make
more regular home visits?

Jerry, you don't answer the question.

Why is [having good parents] a key [to the solution] if the kids
continue to do badly? Could it be that the parents just aren't
interested, or are too concerned with their own problems? You need to
see what's going on in the real world.

Well, that is pretty obvious. Parents who are interested are more likely
to have children who are successful in school, and parents who are not
interested are more likely to have children who are not successful in
school. But who pays the price for this lack of interest? The children
are the ones who pay the price, and many of them will pay that price for
the rest of their lives.

Lets focus on the solution-- not the problem.

That is what I have focused on for a pretty long period of time.

Well, yes, that is part of the problem.

Problem, yes. Solution, no.

Are you going to argue that if parents put the education of their
children at the top of their list of priorities, and put out the effort
to help tham get a good education, that in itself would not go a long way
to solving the problem?

That's not the question. You don't have a solution for educating the
parents on this point.

Of course I do. I have made a whole lot of suggestions how to do that.
First and foremost parents have to be made to understand how important their
role is in the education their children get. Second, I have said, that like
the war on drugs, or the effort to stop people from smoking, if we would put
as much effort in telling parents what a critically important role they play
in seeing that their children get a good education, that would certainly
help, and would not hurt. I have said, we need to "help" parents do their
part of the job. If that means giving them time off from work to attend
school activities, or parent/teacher conferences, then we should do that.
To not do that, is not helping the parents. There are a whole lot of things
we "can" do.


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