Re: before katrina




"Jean Smith" <gotermite@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <wr4Jg.19612$YC3.10974@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Fred Ghadry wrote:

Jerry Okamura wrote:
This posting is full of holes....see my comments...

arthur wouk wrote: Here's what happened. Right after Katrina swamped
the city, I called Washington to get a copy of the evacuation plan.

Why would he call Washington to get a copy of an evacuation plan for
New
Orleans? Is it the federal governments responsibility to establish
an
evacuation plan for every city, town, etc. in the country, or is it
the
responsibility of the people who run the city, town, etc. or the
people
who run the State?

The rather ridiculous answer is provided in another thread discussing
the
centralization of government responsibility and power at the federal
level and the abdication of their responsibilities by state and local
governments.

I would say that it is an "abdication" of the federal government, when there
is no meaning to the word "mandatory evacuation". What the words means is
the "government" really really want you to evacuate, but if you do not
evacuate, that is your choice. And then of course, we expect the
"Government" to go in and bail out those who did not obey the mandatory
evacuation order.... But to be fair, "if" the government really meant what
they said, i.e. you MUST evacuate, then it is also their responsibility to
provide the means for everyone to evacuate.

Once the mind-set is established that the Feds are going to solve
every
problem, the locals can convincingly shrug and say "Hey, it's not my
job!".

No. The plan is there for the feds to do their part.

If the "evacuation plan" removes everyone from the city, what is the
federal
responsibility?

No government was prepared to remove everyone from the city. These folks
discuss
that: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/117/5/S2/S396
The
scene at the Superdome was planned as I read the above.

Which is the key reason we had the problem. No one HAD TO evaculate if they
did not want to, and SOME could not evacuate even if they wanted to.


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