Re: You Reap What You Sow?


Jerry Okamura wrote:
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Jerry Okamura wrote:
I was thinking about the current news about the Israeli "incursion"
into
Lebanon. It occurs to me, that this is an example of what happens
when
the
world organization called the United Nations, fails to do their
job.
Countries will tend to do what is in their own best interest, if
the
world
organization cannot or will not resolve the problem
effectively.....

Do you think the US vetoing every resolution against Israel might
have
something to do with it?


No. I think Israel will continued to do what they are doing
regardless
of
whether there is a resolution or not, if they feel that the nations
security
is more important.

So why do the US bother to undermine the UN over Israel then?

Because they think "their" interest is best served by supporting Israel.

The UN just passed a resolution on North Korea, telling
them what bad boys they are and if they do not fall into line, they
will
be
punished. What do you think the odds are that North Korea will now
abandon
their nuclear ambitions? Do you for a second believe that Iran is
likely
to
abandon their nuclear ambitions, even if the UN passes a resolution
telling
them what bad boys they are? If Syria and/or Iran join the battle and
fight
the Israeli's, what do you suppose the UN is going to do...pass
another
resolution saying what bad boys all of you are?

So what you are saying is that
A) There is no point in having a UN, international law or the Geneva
convention.

Well, you asked the sixty four thousand dollar question...what good is
the
UN? Has it stopped countries from fighting with each other? Has it
really
solved the worlds problems? As for things like international laws or the
Geneva Convention, they are all good ideas, "IF" they were actually
legally
binding to all countries in the world, there were applied fairly to all
countries in the world, they were enforced fairly to all countries in the
world....but that simple fact is, that is not what is happening.
Therefore,
while they are nice documents, they are not worth the paper they are
printed
on.

B) The old League of nations (Now UN) had no business establishing an
immigrant colony against the will of the inhabitants of the region and
declaring it a country.


What has that got to do with the price of beans?

It's the only resolution that Israel insist applies to them, they
disobeyed the rest because the persistent US vetoes make sure they
don't get sanctioned.
There is absolutely no reason why you need to support Israel just
because their media tells you to.


How can there be a resolution when the US vetoes the resolution? And my
posting was not supporting anyone. It was merely trying to point out, that
when the UN cannot or will not take care of a problem, then countries will
take matters into their own hands. And when there is no serious
consequences for not playing by the rules, countries will ignore the
rules....

So why does the US repeatedly shield Israel from the resolutions by
vetoing them, instead of helping enforce them (with eg. embargoes) then?

.

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