Re: Bush says it's important for the President to see the world the way it is.
- From: Thumper <jaylsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:36:26 -0400
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:54:12 GMT, "Martin McPhillips"
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"fargo116" <fargo116@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Martin McPhillips wrote:
This is quite long but what you DON'T tell people that
it
is talking
about the WMDs Saddam used during the Iran-Iraq War and
which UNSCOM
wanted destroyed, most of which Saddam did or rendered
useless by
partially dismantling or burying in the sand in the
desert. Time did
the rest.
You don't understand the situation at all.
Your problem is that I understand it very well. All this
stuff you are
talking about deals with the WMDs Saddam had during the
Iran-Iraq War.
Well, if that is the case, in your mind,
(in other words, it's not really the
case, given, for instance, that the
biological program was only discovered
because a defector ratted it out in
the mid-90s) then Clinton was dealing
with the *exact* same situation.
Wrong. The situation in 2003 was not like that at all.
Thumper
That was almost 20 years ago. Those were not the WMDs the
Drunken Frat
Boy was warning us about. He was talking about something
up to date.
Not a generation old.
Well, he was relying on the best inferences
that the intel agencies were making about
what Saddam had been up to *during* *the*
*four* *years* *that* *no* *inspectors*
*had* *been* *on* *the* *ground* *in*
*Iraq.*
Those four years followed the December
'98 bombing by Clinton, bombing about
which no one knew what, other than
buildings, was destroyed. No one had
a clear idea of what, exactly, Hussein
was up to, but the entirely *reasonable*
inference that he was up to something
were shared by members of both parties
in the Congress, by former President
Clinton and his people, and by various
foreign intelligence operations.
That specific activities were inferred
to mean that he was engaging in specific
weapons development were valid inferences
insofar as the understood behavior of
Hussein was factored in.
Despite what Duelfer, and to a lesser
extent Kay, say about the status of
WMDs prior to the war, I don't think that
there is a definitive answer to what
Hussein was up to or what the disposition
of the WMDs he was assumed to be developing
and manufacturing is. They might never
have existed, or then again they might
have, or then again they might have been
in the planning stage for the moment
that he was free of sanctions as well
as inspectors.
If he had destroyed his weapons, all
that he had to do was provide inspectors
with enough information to verify it,
done so exhaustively, and he would be
the President of Iraq today. And he
would undoubtably back at WMD development
if the UN had given him a clean bill of
health. It's just the nature of the
beast that Hussein was.
.
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