Re: A Bully Mentality


Rita wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:37:07 -0700, El Castor
<anyonethere@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Oldie69@xxxxxxxxx (Olly Mensch) wrote:

ElCastor - - I tend to agree with
Rita, in that it DOES make a difference that we are involved in Iraq.
How could it possibly not matter?! Were we to plan an invasion and/or
aerial attack (of North Korea, for instance, or Iran) we do not have
enough Army to do so, unless we would impose a draft - something, I
believe, the nation is not necessarily ready for. So- we are tied up in
Iraq - very much so. Especially now that that country seemingly is
"going down the drain" and descending into possible civil war.
On the other hand, I do agree with you that China plays a major role,
since their relationship with North Korea is complex - unlike Japan,
which is clearly threatened, and will act accordingly. BUT, my point
is,that I feel,like Rita, that our deep involvement with Iraq -
requiring men and material - makes any other confrontation most
difficult for us.
Olly

Olly, North Korea is basically an army with a civilian population
whose sole purpose is to support the army. Their army is well
equipped, well trained, and the fourth largest in the world. Seoul
South Korea, a city of 10 million, sits a few miles from the DMZ and
has literally thousands of artillery pieces and rockets trained on it.
If a war broke out, the population of Seoul would simply be massacred.

US forces stationed in the south are totally inadequate to stand up to
the North Koreans and would simply be overrun. They have always been
inadequate, and always will be. They are there for one purpose -- to
be killed and captured in the event of a war, thereby guaranteeing the
involvement of the United States.

Add to that the fact that North Korea probably has ten nuclear weapons
and is almost certainly well equipped with nerve gas and the means to
deliver it.

Does that sound like something the US can or should tangle with --
whether our troops were located in Iraq or Iowa? Any all out war with
North Korea would almost certainly be nuclear and conducted from a
distance, and the loss of life would be vast. Be careful what you wish
for.


I don't know that is what Olly wishes for -- I certainly do not. But
there are other threats that are now unforseen that could require U.S.
military might and having our resources tied up in Iraq -- seemingly
endlessly -- is not a healthy situation. Look at having to use the
National Guard in Iraq -- that says something, doesn't it?

I agree with El Castor on this one. Very little of our military might
is tied up in Iraq. Give us exact statistics. Exactly how many of our
military are in Iraq compared to the overall number? Exactly what % of
our military budget is used in Iraq?

As to our military in Korea, it seems to me that we should get our
military out of South Korea and don't understand why we are still
there. It hasn't deterred North Korea. Let South Korea protect its
own border. I believe we have been correct in permitting China and
Japan to take the lead with North Korea's crazy dictator. Does anyone
know how many Korean refugees are alread in China?

.

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