- From: "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2006 23:45:13 GMT
"Islander" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Joe Avalon wrote:
E (Bet) Anthony wrote:
Joe Avalon wrote:
E (Bet) Anthony wrote:
Saddam lies when he told the UN inspectors he had destroyed all his
WMD. How many tons are still unaccounted for? **
Dr. David Key testified at a House hearing on Thursday that close to
500 degraded chemical munitions found in Iraq, and revealed last
week, constitute weapons of mass destruction.
Rep. Curt Weldon asked, "So is it safe to say, based on your
assessment of chemical weapon munitions, that the fact that we have
found them and that the generals are telling us they expect to find
more -- in classified session they're going to tell us approximately
how many they expect to find -- that we still have, under that
definition, WMD in Iraq today?"
"You certainly still have chemical munitions," Kay responded.
Key was also asked his opinion on going to war against Iraq and he
said,"I think the decision to go to war against Iraq was the decision
I would have taken."
Yesterdays hearing is currently airing on C-Span.
You might want to put Kay's comments in context. The entire script of
the testimony is at http://tinyurl.com/eujph
In particular, Kay stated:
It really should not be a surprise to anyone that chemical munitions
produced in Iraq between 1980 and roughly 1991 have been found there
during the course of Iraq -- Operation Iraqi Freedom. Such rounds
continue to be found throughout the period that the UN was in Iraq
from 1991 until it was kicked out in 1998; they were even found during
Dr. Blix's brief period of return prior to the onslaught of Operation
Well, unfortunately, they became scattered throughout that vast armory
that was Iraq. And so in the late 1990s, and in the period after 2003,
in general they have been found as onesies and twosies, and small
numbers, scattered among conventional weapons.
When I took over the Iraq Survey Group in 2003 my attention was not
focused on pre-1991 chemical weapons that Iraq had, although I
testified repeatedly, including the first testimony I gave after
taking the job, that I fully expected that we would find chemical
rounds from the 1980s in Iraq. I knew that they were continuing to be
found right up to the time of the war, and there was no reason to
We all knew that in Iraq we were going to find chemical weapons
produced prior to 1991.
In what follows there is extensive testimony as to why he was not
concerned about these old munitions, how they quickly degraded or were
otherwise of minimal danger relative to the vast quantities of
munitions that were inadequately protected following the invasion.
When asked if he would have gone to war based on what he knew he
MR. KAY: I've said, sir, that I think the decision to go to war
against Iraq was the decision I would have taken. I would have hoped,
I would have planned better for victory.
Overall, it is clear that Kay was much more concerned about the
stockpiles of conventional weapons and explosives that were left to be
picked over by Iraqis who would use them later against us.
Kay clearly doesn't think that there were any WMDs produced after the
gulf war I and that Saddam was simply bluffing in order to retain
MR. KAY: My personal thought is that Saddam's forces were subject to
the same deception and rule of Saddam as the rest of the world was.
That is, he tried to convince his troops that he had these
capabilities, until the point where it came to use them. That is, when
we interviewed -- and we interviewed all the general officers,
commanding units in the circle around Baghdad -- they all said I don't
have it, but the unit on my right or left has it. And we talked to
them and they said well, we don't have it, but we understand the right
or left. And as you probably know, because it's now come out in the
open, Saddam had a general council of his generals as they were
preparing for the defense of Baghdad, and they asked him where are the
weapons of mass destruction? Can we use them? And he said I got rid of
them all. I don't have them.
Bottom line - Kay said, "I think the decision to go to war against Iraq
was the decision I would have taken."
That says it all!
But, not for the reasons given by this administration. He wasn't asked
why he would decide to go to war, but it is clear from his testimony
that he knew that Saddam did not have stockpiles of WMDs.
Here is the question Kay was asked:
"Dr. Kay, in light of your last statement when the gentleman from
Missouri was asking you about the existence of weapons of mass
destruction and the expectancy versus what we found when we got there,
and your answer that you still found Iraq to be a very dangerous place --
dangerous to American security. Having gone and done the survey, how
would you have voted?"
Why do you think Kay's decision to go to war was not based on WMD?
I would say his reasons were the same as this administrations. Iraq was a
vortex of corruption filled with people who were capable to make WMD, who
knew all the secrets, who were in that vortex of corruption willing to
sell their skills to the highest bidder. The threat in Iraq was
The reason given us for going to war was not that Saddam might develop
WMDs, but that he HAD vast stockpiles of WMDs. He did not and Kay knew
that he did not.
Are we going to maintain a doctrine of attacking everyone who might
threaten us in the future? I hope not.
Well, the flip side is, you wait until you are attacked before you respond.
Not very attractive either.
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