Re: Witch hunt

Earl wrote:
"George Z. Bush" <georgezbush@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Earl wrote:
Fred Ghadry <falko282@xxxxxxxx> wrote in
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During the early years of the Cold War, the anticommunist
witch hunt that we now call McCarthyism swept through
American society. McCarthyism was much more than the
career of the blustering senator from Wisconsin who gave
it a name. It was the most widespread and longest-lasting
episode of political repression in American history.

Dozens of men and women went to prison, thousands lost
their jobs, and untold numbers of others saw what happened
to those people and refrained from expressing
controversial or unpopular ideas. McCarthyism remains all
too relevant today; if nothing else, it reminds us that we
cannot take our basic freedoms for granted.

What happened during the Cold War red scare of the late
1940s and 1950s? How could such a politically repressive
movement as the red scare arise in a modern democratic
society such as the post-World War II United States? Which
aspects of domestic and international politics of the late
1940s and 1950s contributed to the rise of the
anti-communist furor? What were the costs of McCarthyism?
And, most important, how did it affect American culture,
politics, and the rest of American society?

Today, when there is so much discussion about all the ills
of the world, it mightn't hurt to remember that a
repressive regime ruled in this country not too many years
ago.


But lest one get the wrong idea,

There were witches out there then.

It is acknowledged that the FDR administration was riddled
with Communist spies, and agents.

Don't take our word for it, look at the files of the KGB.
These files confirm just about every one of the spy
allegations, as well as a bunch we never knew about.

The problem was that the Leftists who ran the Democrats,
believed in the goodness of world communism and were
perfectly willing to help out the Soviet Union any way the
could. And FDR was telling everyone that Uncle Joe was our
friend and ally, so of course we needed to tell him how to
build atom bombs.

Complete and total bull***. We didn't even know that those
things would work until AFTER FDR was dead. In any case,
nobody told Stalin anything about them other than his spies
in our country, who stole all of the "how to" information
about them after the war had ended and the Russians saw how
valuable they would be for them to have. BTW, the only
spies who had any direct part in government activities were
a couple of Brits.

You need to get your facts straight if you want to constuct
fairy tales that people will believe.


We have a similar situation today with people with dual
citizenship.....

Are you suggesting that Americans holding dual citizenship
are disloyal to this country? If so, what are you basing
that conclusion on other than your own ding-a-ling ideas?
Provide a cite or a link to a responsible source if you want
believability.

........You are an American; or you are an Israeli,
Mexican, Chinese or whatever -- but not both.

Cite? You obviously don't know it, but there are many
Americans who hold dual citizenship and who fill responsible
positions in our government and whose performance are
totally free of criticism or questions about their loyalty.

George Z




You sir are the individual with the major gap in your knowledge.

There were several spy rings AT Los Alamos, throughout the
development of the bomb.

The Rosenbergs, Greenglass and Klaus Fuchs are the only names that come to
mind regarding Los Alomos. You're talking spy rings, so name some
more....surely four people don't make up "several spy rings".


At Potsdam, Stalin knew more about the bomb than Truman.

I seriously doubt it. One of the first things Truman was briefed on after
FDR's death were the details of the Manhattan project. Minutes of the
Potsdam Conference only revealed that Truman told Stalin that we had a new
weapon we were going to use on Japan, and Stalin apparently asked no
questions about it. What do you base your statement on?

And the spies were not just stealing military secrets. They were
at State, guiding diplomatic negotiations (and revealing our
positions during the dealmaking.)

The only ones who's names come to mind were Whitaker Chambers and Alger
Hiss. Were there any others? If so, who were they and why weren't they
prosecuted?

.....And just about every other department had Soviet agents. Enough so
that Russia sent out a
warning to tone down the networks, because the consequences when
caught would work against the Communists.

Just a little bit of research would show you the error of your
blindness.

How about sharing some of that research with us by providing some names of
Soviet agents working in U. S. government departments other than State? I
don't remember reading or hearing anything about that either at that time or
at any time since. Who were those people? Were they prosecuted and, if
not, why not? Names and work places, please.

George Z
As for an individual being free of any criticism of his loyalty,
Benedict Arnold held that reputation until Andre was caught.


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