Re: Paul Krugman: No more illegal immigrants

Thumper wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:24:54 -0500, Alan Lichtenstein <arl@xxxxxxx>
wrote:


Josh Rosenbluth wrote:


Alan Lichtenstein wrote:


As I initially asserted, when both Republicans and Democrats, liberals
and conservatives, Bush apologists and Bush haters, find themselves on
the same page of this issue, then Congress ought to stand up and take
notice. We need to severely criminalize illegal border crossings, round
up these illegals and promptly deport them. The anguished cries of the
so-called do-gooders in various churches, not withstanding.


Krugman's argues the loss in wages (8 percent) amongst American
high-school dropouts do not justify the overall increase to our economy
(less than 1 percent) brought about by the 10+ million illegal
immigrants. That's persuasive.

Now that any possible economic justification for their existence in this country is removed, that should enable us to take the next, obvious step, and remove them. Especially, since Krugman alludes that they are actually a long term detriment. And you know that the reactionary economists of The Heritage Foundation and Cato Institute are not going to argue this point with him.


However, Krugman isn't arguing that we should round up the illegals and
deport them. He rejects the House bill, describing it as "simply
immoral" because it "among other things, make it a criminal act to
provide an illegal immigrant with medical care." He also said
"realistically, we'll need to reduce the inflow of low-skill
immigrants."

I am guessing that Krugman believes if we started from scratch and
legally provided for the "correct" number of Mexican immigrants, we
would still allow a much larger number into the USA than current law
permits - even though it would not be as large as 10 million.
Krugman's solution is to slow the rate of growth (border control?) so
that we reach that number in the future. Implied in this approach is
giving legal status to most of the current illegals.

Krugman only says that we tighten border controls to stem future illegal crossings. But if you bothered to read what he wrote, he essentially says that those that are already here are going to cause the rest of us to provide welfare benefits for them.

I rather think he implied that they put American workers on welfare.


No, that was not his implication. He clearly speaks about providing benefits to everyone inside our borders, and these additional felons cause us to expend moneys on them which are unnecessary, assuming they were not here. Krugman DOES say that they have a negative economic impact on the least fortunate in our society, and THAT above everything else is cause to remove them posthaste.

They are Mexico's problem. We should NOT let Mexico's problem become OUR problem.
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