Re: Yep, this RFID stuff is really gonna be great!


"Alvin Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:28:02 GMT, "J.C." <jccsplace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"AndyS" <andysharpe@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Lots of dead
people would disagree. I just don't trust those kinds of statements
anymore.
-- JC

Andy replies:
The article isn't talking about medical viruses, it talks about
"computer"
viruses which affect the computer chips used in RFID. It is crap.

You need to take that up with the scientists that are writing the
articles.
---- JC

Andy replies:
Ten to one the article was written by a reporter who probably fail
"general science" back in high school. A "scientist" wouldn't know
either.... It would take an engineer with a background in RFID to
know whether the subject has merit.... Not one single "scientist"
was involved in the development of RFID, and that includes the
engineers I worked with at Lawrence Livermore and at the NIST.
This field of electronics is purely an engineering function.......
You don't go to a "scientist" to get your TV repaired.........you
go to a technician......

I think you are so fired up about this animal tag thing that you
missed the point entirely....... The only potential computer virus
that can be spread by ALL know RFID systems is one that can
be hacked into a mainframe READER,

The accumulated radiation concern and I guess the virus possibility is
that
these animals will be "read" a minimum of 19 times from origin, through
the
sale barn, through the packer/processor to the consumer. The claim is that
there is enough accumulated radiation over a period of 25 years to kill a
human if they ate X amount of radiated food.

As for the hacked virus, the claim is that a scanner could be hacked
thereby
giving erroneous readings and defeating the whole purpose of chipping
animals.

This entire proposal is just pure bull***. It began at Cargill. And it
has
one purpose. The organic farmers/ranchers have captured 4% of their market
and that is moving up. They want us out of the equation and the sooner the
better. So, they came up with this health scare idea and got Smithfield,
Tyson, IBP, ADM, Conagra and a bunch of other big agribiz outfits to sign
on
by devising this grand scheme that is supposed to shield them from
liability
if there is a disease outbreak and excuse them from having to pay the
costs
of testing every animal at slaughter. This is what the TAHC commissioners
told us in Austin on February 16, 2006.

If it was about nothing more than protecting the health of the food supply
all that is necessary is that they enforce the damn animal disease
reporting
laws and initiate a chain of title transfer system just like you have with
automobiles.

You can read this and then see who the "stakeholders" are and the true
motive behind all of this becomes very clear.

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/ain_system/AIN_Admin.pdf

I don't see it that way. Using sampled testing means that if the
sample is bad, the whole lot is suspect and canned. That strict
standard should apply to BSE in cows. And all the cows should be
treated as if they all had BSE. If the US is not prepared to do that,
then every cow should be tested. This is basic QA 101. The RFID makes
this type of testing possible and should be adopted if this is what
our customers want.

No it doesn't because about 2,000,000 people are NOT going to comply with
it! Do you know what causes BSE??? You probably don't. It's only known cause
is from eating feed made from dead animals! And Monsanto makes that feed! It
was supposedly outlawed a few years back but they left Monsanto a loophole.



Other animals should not be tested this way and do not warrant RFIDS.
The Japanese don't buy chicken from us? Or perhaps they do with the
avian flu scare going on in China. My son and his wife cannot even
bring back dried noodle preparations from their Japan trip for US fear
of the flu from the broth dried mix. Customs treats them as potential
criminals warning of a $1000 fine for each package and confiscating
all their gifts. We should treat our beef the same way we have fears
of Japanese chicken-- either don't sell it to Japan, or test every
cow.

Maybe in terms of cost, we should pay the Japanese for $5 million per
person infected with BSE from American cows. Then the true cost would
be sobering to those who complain that it eats into their profit
margin.

THAT'S THE MAIN ARGUMENT! Monsanton, Cargill, ADM, Conagra and all the other
big boys want this NAIS bull*** because it will shield them from liability
and put in on the small producer that DOES NOT IMPORT THEIR PRODUCTS!


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Just look at this one picture! Will that pig be chipped?

http://www.american-pictures.com/gallery/usa/pages/usa-02167.htm

There are an estimated 44,000 more locations just like these in the state
of Texas alone, and over 2,000,000 in the US according to the US Census.
There is no way they can comply with the NAIS. Does anyone really believe
that people that have to live like this will comply with the NAIS? And, if
they
don't the whole program is compromised. What will they do to these people?
You don't think they will fine them, do you? You don't think they will take
their
property, do you. So, what will that say for our 14th Amendment of all being
treated equally under the laws?

Nancy Reagan had it right. JUST SAY NO!

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/about/pdf/NAIS_Draft_Strategic_Plan_42505.pdf
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_id/2005Dec_Animal_ID_Fact***.pdf
http://NoNAIS.org/

J.C.


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