Re: Finally A Decent Proposal HR4437

Jerry Okamura wrote:

"George Z. Bush" <georgezbush@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:FTMNf.769$S57.711@xxxxxxxxxxx

Rita wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:54:18 GMT, "Jerry Okamura"
<okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"Rita" <nitany_98@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:56:57 GMT, "Jerry Okamura"
<okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Total bull. All that will happen is they will work the underground
economy,
then you wil have an even harder time finding them.... The only real
solution to this problem is to figure out a way to create an environment
in
those countries they come from, not to want to leave their country....


I agree about the underground economy -- but who is to figure out
a way to create an environment in "those" countries that makes
immigration here no longer attractive? Mexico, Central and South
American countries, many Asian and African countries -- who is
going to fix up their economies so their people want to stay there.
Surely you are not suggesting the U.S can and should do that,
or are you?


Well, my attitude about that is if no one is willing to even willing to
start thinking about that end of the problem, then we will always have the
illegal immigration problem.

I think everyone recognizes that deprivation in their home countries
is the prime reason illegals come here -- but what would you suggest
be done about that? Or to put the question another way, what could
the U.S. do about that? Does the U.S. have the power and the means
to "fix" up the economies of Mexico and Central and South America,
for example?

NAFTA was supposed to help do that, but I don't think it's working the way it's supposed to.


Well, I would say it is not hurting. Some people have reasonably good paying jobs as a result, those people who do have reasonably good paying jobs spend their money on the goods and services they could not otherwise spend money on, which then benefits those who sell the goods and seervices, and those who work for the businesses that sell those products/services....


Actually, Jerry, the theory behind NAFTA was that if you create a free trade zone by shifting manufacturing to low cost labor countries close by, like Mexico, more Mexicans will be employed who will then, in turn, be able to purchase the increasingly technological services and products that the U.S. would still manufacture.

And it worked for a while, albeit, a very short while. China, presented even lower labor costs that Mexico was willing to absorb, and as a result, Mexico lost all the manufacturing jobs that gained from us, the garment manufacturing in particular, to China. Consequently, the benefits to us from NAFTA never materialized, but we did get all their human capital better know as illegal aliens, which we really don't need.

Except if you're a bleeding heart who thinks America should be the welfare center for the world.
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