Re: New Abu Ghraib abuse photos anger Arabs

Do you really think that their problems are any different that muslims
today?

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:53:56 GMT, "Jerry Okamura"
<okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What legal representation did the Japanese Americans have during the time
they were in those camps? Were they released as a result of that legal
representation?

"Alvin Toda" <aet@> wrote in message
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Big difference, Jerry. At least, they have the opportunity for legal
representation. Not so Guatanamo prisoners. They have no legal rights.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:02:34 GMT, "Jerry Okamura"
<okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Not much different that those who are in prisons in the USA....i.e. we
don't
know how many are completely inncoent... By the way, what legal
representation did our fellow Japanese Americans have when they got sent
of
to those detention camps?

"Alvin Toda" <aet@> wrote in message
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Perhaps another problem with Guantanamo is that we don't know how many
are completely innocent. Their legal representation is nil. It's
shamefull in a democracy to have this.

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:52:23 -0700, " ^*^" <X@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

The UN Needs to sanction the US for it's crimes in Guantanamo Bay. The
US
will ignore it unlike Iraq which is
expected to obey sanctions. Add one more the US has
ignored.........These
people are prepared to die. They
have no life nor will they ever have a life and the US is preventing
them
from doing so. The US can torture, use
weapons of mass destruction but no one else can do that.

Someday their time will come.


"Anonyma" <anon-bounces@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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New Abu Ghraib abuse photos anger Arabs
Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:49 AM EST

By Michael Perry

SYDNEY (Reuters) - An Australian television station broadcast on
Wednesday what it said were previously unpublished images of
abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison, fuelling more Arab
anger against the United States.

The Special Broadcasting Service's "Dateline" current affairs
program said the images were recorded at the same time as
the now-infamous pictures of U.S. soldiers abusing Abu Ghraib
detainees which sparked international outrage in 2004.

Some of the newly broadcast pictures suggest further abuse
such as killing, torture and sexual humiliation, Dateline said.

The grainy, still photographs and video images show prisoners,
some bleeding or hooded, bound to beds and doors, sometimes
with a smiling guard beside them.

They include two naked men handcuffed together, a pile of five
naked detainees photographed from the rear, and a dog straining
at a leash close to the face of a crouching man wearing a bright
orange jumpsuit.

The images were swiftly re-broadcast by Arab satellite television
stations and several news organizations, including American ABC
News television, showed them on their Web sites.

They stirred up more anger among Arabs, already incensed by
the publication on Sunday of images of British soldiers apparently
beating Iraqi youths and by cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad
printed in European papers.

"This is truly American ugliness that no other country in the world
can compete with," journalist Saleh al-Humaidi told Reuters in Yemen.

"The Americans ought to apologize to mankind for their government's
lie to the world that it is fighting for freedom and that it came to
Iraq
`
to save it from Saddam Hussein's oppression," he said.

INFLAMING VIOLENCE

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the abuses at Abu
Ghraib had already been fully investigated and publication
of the latest pictures would trigger needless violence.

"The department believes that the release of all of these
images will further inflame and cause unnecessary violence
in the world," Whitman said.

"...In Abu Ghraib specifically, there have been more than
25 individuals -- officer and enlisted -- that have been
held accountable for criminal acts and other failures."

Dateline executive producer Mike Carey said the program
had obtained a file containing hundreds of pictures -- some
that have been seen before and others that show new abuses.

He declined to say where or how the station had got hold of
the images, but said he assumed other journalists or media
also had access to them.

Several pictures appear to show U.S. soldier Charles Graner,
who was jailed for 10 years for his leading role in the Abu
Ghraib abuse and who featured in the earlier batch of
photographs. Graner's former lover, Lynndie England, was
sentenced to three years for her part.

Some of the video footage apparently shows one prisoner
bashing his own head against a wall, while some
photographs appear to show corpses, said Carey.

The program said some prisoners at Abu Ghraib had
been killed when U.S. soldiers ran out of rubber
bullets as they tried to quell a jail riot, and resorted
to using live rounds.

One picture showed what looked like cigarette burns
on a man's buttocks.

Carey said other images featured prisoners in sexually
humiliating acts that were deemed too graphic to broadcast.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has been granted
access to the images under U.S. Freedom of Information
provisions, but the U.S. government is appealing the
decision, Dateline said.

ACLU lawyer Amrit Singh told Dateline the images were
evidence of "systemic and widespread abuse" by U.S. soldiers.

The latest pictures will put more pressure on the United
States over its treatment of detainees.

Five U.N. human rights experts have urged Washington
to shut down the jail at its naval base at Guantanamo
Bay in Cuba after concluding that forced-feeding of
prisoners and some interrogation techniques there
amounted to acts of torture.

"These are disgusting pictures ... it's not strange for
Americans to do such things. They've done it in
Guantanamo and every prison that is under their
control," said Mounir al-Mamari, an engineer in Yemen.

(Additional reporting by Mohamed Ghobari in Sanaa,
Charles Aldinger in Washington)





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