Re: Fences to Stop Ilegal Immigrants?




"Jeffrey Beaver" <justuschickens@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>I am going to make this as simple as I can so people like you just may
>>understand it. You cannot stop people from doing what they want to do.
>>You
>>can make it more difficult or easy for them to do what they want to do,
>>but
>>you cannot stop them... If you prevent all of them from working for a
>>legitimate company doing business in the United States they will simply
>>not
>>use that as a means for achieving what they are here to achieve. They
>>will
>>simply move to the underground economy, which will make the job of finding
>>them even harder. They only way to prevent people to come to this country
>>illegally is to support policies that create an environment where people
>>would not want to leave the country of their birth in the first place.
>>
> Jerry, I usually agree with you, but not this time. Have you ever
> wondered why you have very few illegal Mexicans in Hawaii. The answer
> is pretty obvious. You are surrounded by a rather large moat. That
> moat, the Pacific Ocean, is more difficult to swim than the Rio Grande
> -- so you have fewer Mexicans than Texas. An effective barrier of
> barbed wire, anti-vehicle ditches, and a pair of 15 foot fences
> separated by a road, combined with sensors and unmanned patrol
> aircraft, as well as a substantially beefed up Border Patrol, would
> unquestionably greatly reduce cross border incursions, which right now
> are running at more than a million a year. Would we completely stop
> every Mexican? Of course not, but just like a lock on a door is more
> effective than an unlocked door and a bank vault door is more
> effective than a dead bolt, we would keep out most -- which is all we
> need to do.

I personally am in support of building a fence (as effective a fence as we
can put up), because as you said, it will deter some, perhaps many from
crossing our borders so easily. But I do not think that is going to solve
the illegal immigration problem. It "may" reduce the number coming into
this country, but it will not stop them from coming. What a fence does is
at best, reduce the number of illegal aliens entering through our southern
border, but at best, that only represent 60% of our problem with illegal
immigration because 40% of illegal aliens living in this country entered
this country legally.....
>
> And, by the way, being a Californian I deal with Mexicans every day. I
> like and respect them. They are for the most part family oriented,
> hard working, and conscientious -- and they go to the same church as
> my wife's family -- not a mosque. Nevertheless, the United States
> government has an obligation to control our borders and make a
> rational reasoned decision about how many Mexicans we want to admit
> each year. We can't let the Mexicans, Brazilians, and Central
> Americans make that decision for us.
> http://www.weneedafence.com/

I would agree with that, but it seems to me we have the Federal government
doing one thing, i.e. trying to find these people and returning them to
their home country, then we have the State government who is not helping
out, and instead making matters worse....


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