Re: Al-Qaida Claims Responsibility for Attack


"Jose" <jdaysmix@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Jerry Okamura wrote:
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>> "Jose" <jdaysmix@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>Jeffrey Beaver wrote:
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>>>>Earl <neptune@xxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>>"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>>>>>>"Earl" <neptune@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>"Earl" <neptune@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>"Earl" <neptune@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>news:NXuAf.1712$Ou1.1051@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>>>>>>>>>>>Basicly we have an almost impossible task of going much
>>>>>>>>>>>beyond 4 years of struggle.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I did have a thought. If what you say is true, then any
>>>>>>>>>>enemy could defeat us simply if they are able to
>>>>>>>>>>continue the fight for more than four years, which means
>>>>>>>>>>that we could be defeated big time couldn't we?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yep.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Democracies have the failing that their wars start out
>>>>>>>>>with the public support. But with time the people get
>>>>>>>>>angry that they are not receiving all the goodies that
>>>>>>>>>politicians normally promise with taxes, and there are
>>>>>>>>>malcontents who point to the casualties and say it is not
>>>>>>>>>worth it.
>>>>>>>>>The only successful war we fought lasting over 4 years
>>>>>>>>>was the Revolutionary War, and that had us with 1/3 in
>>>>>>>>>favor 1/3 against and 1/3 saying leave me out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Nam ran into severe problems at the 4 year point.
>>>>>>>>>(and their strategy was to wait us out and then attack
>>>>>>>>>SVN with a full armored army bigger than Patton used,
>>>>>>>>>against a force without arms-courtesy of the US Congress)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just about the only way we would keep up the fight would
>>>>>>>>>be if our homes were being burned and pillaged and the
>>>>>>>>>front line was down the street.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kind of a sad commentary don't you think? I wonder what
>>>>>>>>would happen if someone actually invaded this country?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We would grant them citizenship and give special allowances
>>>>>>>so they could have free medical and education benefits.
>>>>>>>Look up the Aztlan Movement. Groups at US colleges
>>>>>>>preaching the overthrow of the US and incorporation into
>>>>>>>Mexico.
>>>>>>>Invasions do not have to be armed. You just have to have a
>>>>>>>group maintaining a distinct cultural difference that will
>>>>>>>not assimilate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gee and I thought I was a cynic....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you do any historical reading, you are almost certain to become
>>>>>cynical about the political process.
>>>>>
>>>>>We have been making the same mistakes for the same reasons for 3000
>>>>>years.
>>>>>
>>>>>An example close to your home.
>>>>>Consider the Kingdom of Hawaii, and how it let in all those
>>>>>unassimilateable Yankees. They ended up taking all the land, and then
>>>>>fomenting a revolution to assume control (and then they let in all the
>>>>>Japanese and Chinese and lost a good bit of the control they stole)
>>>
>>>How much of that land is still owned by Hawaii and just on a 100 year
>>>lease? I don't know.
>>
>>
>> Are you talking about the State or the native Hawaiians? The State is
>> like any State, they can own whatever land they want to own. If you are
>> talking about the Native Hawaiians, and if you include anyone with any
>> drop of Native Hawaiian blood, then I would imagine that any of the large
>> wealthy families who intermarried with any Hawaiian, would own a whole
>> lot of land...and I suspect that there a number of them. For instance,
>> if there is anyone left alive from the Bishops, they would all be part
>> native Hawaiian, and very very rich...
>>
>>
>
> The Native Hawaiians

Then the answer is as I said above...


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