Re: Environment News: Rogue Nation Has Become Consensus Builder

Alvin Toda <aet@> wrote in
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> On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:35:25 -0500, "Lee K"
> <lee_kee***@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>"Alvin Toda" <aet@> wrote in message
>>news:t4sir1ldmgr2um07lt1rde5dbu9k0bob0u@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:47:23 -0500, "Lee K"
>>> <lee_kee***@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Why is that? The US and
>>> Australia could have joined them in the Kyoto Agreement.
>>
>>China and India, under Kyoto, weren't required to do
>>anything to reduce emissions, whereas all other signatory
>>countries were supposed to reduce emissions to 1990 levels.
>
> That's not my question. I asked why it's significant that
> they joined the US pact. It only looks like they're playing
> up to the President in helping him with the upcoming
> elections this year. They only thing they get out of the US
> Pact is good will and a photo op with the President.
>
> There's nothing they need to do in reducing polution at the
> present time. That makes sense because their polution is
> miniscule compared to the US. The US needs to reduce
> polution now. And China and India need to reduce future
> polution. They don't need to do that with the US pact, but
> they do with the Kyoto Protocol.
>

Their use may be small on a per capita basis.

But the fact remains that China and India are the number 2 and 3
CO2 emitters in the world with a total that is over 1/2 that of
the US. Sat photos show massive brown clouds coming across the
Pacific from these miniscule pollluters. Something not see from
the "evil" US.

(Economist also reported that China alone accounts for about 11%
of the world trade in super luxury goods such as Rolex etc
watches, designer handbags, and other trappings of the super
affluent. Interesting in light of the image of China being
poor).

And your (non) understanding of Kyoto is amazing. China and
India along with all the rest of the developing countries did
not have to make ANY cuts. The BA meeting as a follow-on even
resulted in a resolution baring any discussion of cuts required
for developing countries at any future meeting.
.