Re: Study Blames Global Warming for Stronger Hurricanes

On 22 Sep 2005 20:53:01 -0700, "Peter Vos" <pvos58@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>E. (Bet) Anthony wrote:
>> Earl wrote:
>> > maureen <maureen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> > news:9k55j1turbt1sj8kt88430u8ekje5rmvkd@xxxxxxx:
>> >
>> >
>> >>On 22 Sep 2005 03:00:42 GMT, Earl <neptune@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>maureen <maureen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >>>news:uqq3j1p55tgr2dddhh4tt76t9vb3e675pl@xxxxxxx:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>New, detailed study blames warming world for stronger
>> >>>>hurricanes.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>" We can say with confidence that the trends in sea
>> >>>>surface temperatures and hurricane intensity are connected
>> >>>>to climate change," says Webster's co-author Judy Curry,
>> >>>>also of the Georgia Institute of Technology. The team
>> >>>>looked at the incidence of intense tropical storms and the
>> >>>>study results are the strongest affirmation yet that
>> >>>>Katrina-level hurricanes are becoming more frequent in a
>> >>>>warmer world"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>http://www.newscientist.com/channel/earth/hurricane/dn8002
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>It is amazing what a group that is determined to push the
>> >>>global warming concept (New Scientist) will do to
>> >>>selectively alter a report.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I thought this would get you out of hiding, Earl. ;-)
>> >>
>> >>The best places to go for information on scientific studies
>> >>are to the studies themselves, or to scientific magazines
>> >>where experts summarize the studies. The New Scientist is
>> >>not interested in altering scientific reports. It's Bush
>> >>and his gang who do that constantly -- and the vested
>> >>interests of the mega fossil fuel lobby groups who give them
>> >>mucho lolly, and also hire scientists to put out
>> >>anti-scientific information against global warming.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>The same study, as reported by the Economist
>> >>>http://www.economist.com/science/displayStory.cfm?story_id=44
>> >>>00847 47
>> >>>
>> >>>notes these very interesting report problems.
>> >>>(they also bother to have the graphs which show a rise, but
>> >>>with a LOT of noise.
>> >>>
>> >>>And the long tern incrase in Atlantic storms just shows that
>> >>>the cycle exists that we have known about for decades. We
>> >>>are now in a high number period.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>It's interesting that you would choose a general news
>> >>magazine for your interpretation of the new data on
>> >>hurricanes over a magazine that deals soley with science,
>> >>Earl. I know which source I would prefer .
>> >>
>> >>The co-Author of the study , Judy Curry, said herself that
>> >>the study results are the strongest affirmation yet that
>> >>Katrina-level hurricanes are becoming more frequent in a
>> >>warmer world.
>> >>
>> >>Now that is going to the real source and not a source of
>> >>general news.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>maureen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > The Science section of Economist is far from a general news
>> > magazine.
>> >
>> > The content and reporting are far better than you will find in
>> > NS or Discover. SciAm once had a good reputation but lost it 20
>> > years ago with a political biased publishing staff than now
>> > pushes the latest fad. NS and Discover have lowered themselves
>> > to the level of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics.
>> >
>> > Since I tend to read Science (AAAS) whenever possible I can see
>> > the difference between intelligent summations and political
>> > spin.
>> >
>> > But you did not bother to explain how the 2nd largest increase
>> > in intensity occured in an area with no measured temperature
>> > increase. Your argument for the GW link fails on that
>> > observation alone.
>>
>> I knew the tree hugging fruitcakes would be coming out of the woodwork
>> as soon as they heard we were in this higher storm cycle.
>>
>
>Silly Wabbit.... I knew the pro-business at any cost damn the
>environment crowd would come crawling out of their fallout shelters so
>I saved this little tidbit for ya.....

And a good little tidbit it is.
>
>A new report published by the Association of British Insurers
>outlines how climate change could increase the financial costs of
>extreme weather around the world:
>
>
>"Based on the best-available scientific assessment of climate change.
>Even quite small increases in the intensity of major storms
>(hurricanes, typhoons, windstorms), as predicted by the latest climate
>change science, could increase damage costs by at least two-thirds by
>the end of the century. The most extreme storms could become even more
>destructive, making insurance markets more volatile, as the cost of
>capital required to cover such events increases."
>
>Yeah those flighty actuaries...all pie in the sky fanciful chicken
>littles with no sense of proportion running around with their heads cut
>off ....

Metaphor is a bit too complex for the particular rightard you are
addressing.
>
>http://www.abi.org.uk/Display/Display_Popup/default.asp?Menu_ID=1090&Menu_All=1,1088,1090&Child_ID=552
>
>And then there is this little tidbit:
>
>The High Cost Of Climate Change
>To some researchers, Katrina looks like a harbinger of much more
>catastrophic weather to come.
>By David Stipp
>Friday, September 2, 2005
>
>The story is co-operatively printed on organic recycled handmade paper
>so we can save the rainforest crew at that crazy hotbed of indy media
>.... Fortune Magazine
>
>http://www.fortune.com/fortune/articles/0,15114,1101173,00.html

Love it !



maureen

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