Re: Reconciling the religious and scientific views on the origin of life [was Re: Evolution]

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 06:42:12 -0700, Peter Vos wrote:

> You haven't really provided much more of a counter argument than "Nuh
> ...uh" while I have taken the time to not only provide concrete examples,
> I even gave you references.

Pay close attention, I'm not a teacher, you didn't go to school far
enough to understand math. We can't communicate until you first admit
your ignorance and second go to school and correct it. Otherwise you are
just another Jesus freak trying to sneak in the back door.

>
> Just because 1+1=2 is normally true, it is not always true. The fact
> that 1+1=1 in Boolean algebra doesn't address my point. The distinction
> between discovered and invented is not necessarily a distinction between
> absolute and mutable. It certainly is not the distinction between the
> different varieties of truth (a different topic entirely). Consider the
> history of the Euler Relation. Clearly no definitions or proofs are
> absolute and beyond revision. Gödel's incompleteness results mean
> that we cannot eliminate the possibility that mathematics may actually
> generate contradictions.

My point wasn't about number systems and number base (I never mentioned
them), but about the algebraic commutative law, the associative law, and
sometimes the distribution rule. Additionally rules about zero and
infinity are addressed. The assignment is to change one of these laws
and prove that the resulting system is as complete and correct as the
system without the change. Your misunderstanding means that you don't
understand math to the extent needed to argue your defense of religion.

>
> If you want to hold on to the belief that pi was invented, that is
> irrational.

I said nothing about pi or any other math constant. Most of which are the
sum of infinite series defined over 500 years ago. If you are searching
for god, this isn't the place, try the physical constants -- they were
worth a few laughs in the nineteenth century.

--
Glenn

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