Re: Let Us Not Go Whacko Over Iraqo !

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:14:58 -0500, Glenn <minorgo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:46:08 +0000, Rumpelstiltskin wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Well, I don't agree completely. We can't get far from our
>> physical brain wiring, but if lampreys have different brain structure, how
>> can we say that anthropoid brain wiring is "True"? Societies differ from
>> each other and change within themselves over time. Individuals modify
>> even that by agreeing with or rebelling against the parts of the current
>> social establishment with which they were imprinted by their social
>> environment before they could think. Where's monolithic "Truth" in all
>> that?
>
>As usual, in your never ending quest to never be wrong you have confused
>what is commonly meant by truth with some unrealizable meaning called
>absolute truth. Truth is, off course, dependent on the society, the
>advancement level, and the unavoidable blind spots. Never-the-less,
>at least from Socrates onward, educated people have found truth by
>interaction, not by study or observation. Study and observation lead to
>truth, but interaction validates the data.


Conditional truth isn't "Truth": it's admission of non-truth. If
there is no (social) "Truth", there's still a problem with forcing
"non-truth" into the box left empty by the nonexistence of
anything socially "True". People are so swayed by language
that they'd come to feel that the non-truth is truth, just
because somebody put it into the "Truth" box. That's in
practice such a common phenomenon that it's hard to miss.
As my favourite quote from Wittgenstein goes, repeated yet
again, "Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our
intelligence by means of language."

I use the parenthetical "social" only because it's so much
more obvious, just by looking around, that there's no Social
"Truth" than for other kinds of "Truth". "Social Truth" is
what this thread's been about.

I do admit to a quest of never being wrong, though. Olly
caught me lately, in regard to my inconsistency regarding
my prejudices versus other people's, I'll still claim to have
been "right", or at least "not wrong" though, since my
lead-up had already indicated self-recognition that I was
being unrepentantly emotional rather than rational.

I don't mind being wrong if I didn't have the right
facts: indisputable facts, that is, not "facts" based on
other people's opinions or viewpoints or attempts at
mind-control.


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