Re: McCain Backs Gay Marriage Ban

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:52:04 -0400, Alan Lichtenstein <arl@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

>emily2@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> On 30 Aug 2005 06:01:54 -0700, "Poppy - San Francisco Bay Area"
>> <GoldenStatePoppy@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think you are correct. John McCain will gain a great deal of support
>>>by opposing gay marriage. As a nation and culture, we are not ready
>>>for that, and may never be.
>>
>>
>> I wish someone would explain to me what it is about gay marriage that
>> we're "not ready for". Is there some objection other than that based
>> on something in the Bible?
>
>Please allow me to try. Marriage, as defined and practiced for
>millennia has been an aggregation between a man and a woman. Many
>people myself included, object to altering that well understood concept
>because of personal preferences. Simply put, a couple which consists of
>a homosexual couple is NOT the same as couple which is heterosexual, and
>no amount of rhetoric by proponents is going to make those couples the
>same, no matter how much some may wish.
>
>As far as a biblical objection, to be sure, there are those who would
>cite that, but that is not my argument. The simple fact is that the
>nature of the couples are different, will always be different and
>consequently, can not be made to be the same.
>
>> I have heard the slippery slope argument, and find it ludicrous. I
>> just don't believe there would ever be a huge number of people lining
>> up to marry their dogs, their sisters, or six women. And if they did,
>> I can't see that it would be any skin off my nose.
>
>The issue of the slippery slope may indeed be true. After all, one can
>legitimately ask, "Where will it stop?" If well understood concepts are
>changed at the whim of personal satisfaction, then that argument can
>indeed be made. However, I choose not to make that argument.
>
>> I don't see why so many of us feel it necessary to regulate other
>> people's behavior.
>
>Then perhaps you should ask why gays find it necessary to force their
>concept of marriage on others. did that ever occur to you?
>
> Alan



It's true that homosexuals are different from heterosexuals,
just as it's true that women are different from men and that
blacks are different from whites and that Jews believe
differently from Christians, yet such differences were ultimately
found inadequate to overcome the fact that they were all
humans. Are we going to stop now, before the job of treating
everyone equally under law, including equal access to
government and consequent benefits, is done? If blacks
can do everything but use the white water cooler, they're
not equal. If gays can do everything except get government
benefits, and consequent equality in non-government
entities that follow the government, just for hitching up,
they're not equal.

If someone thinks gay people have no right to "force"
demands for equality on others, I have zero sympathy
with that chauvinistic view. I'm plenty chauvinistic
myself, about being a guy and about being gay, but I
don't feel that's justification for putting women and
heterosexuals into a lesser station under law.


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