Re: Are too many people retired ?

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:56:35 -0700, "Bob Thomas" <robobt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>"Rita" <nitany_98@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:2u2ne197sdviubvhkqdbp9l54j0ppeoipq@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:09:32 -0700, "Bob Thomas" <robobt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Privacy rights? I'd wholeheartedly concur that whatever gays do in
>>>private
>>>is nobody's business but their own. "Marriage" however is a civil
>>>contract,
>>>not private at all. And abortion a privacy right??? I think you overlook
>>>the actual basic issue..."Is abortion the taking of a human life?"
>>>Partial
>>>birth abortion supporters evidently believe that even at the birthing is
>>>isn't until the baby is completely out of the mother's body. The Catholic
>>>Church's position is that the moment of conception is the point at which
>>>the
>>>fetus is "human". Lots of room for argument there. Me? I dunno what to
>>>think.
>>>
>> The Court recognized privacy rights limited to some
>> degree in Roe vs. Wade. I support this decision. Some
>> would allow no late term abortions at all, but there
>> are medical circumstances the Court recognized as mitigating
>> an absolute prohibition.
>>
>> The Catholic Church's position on abortion has not been
>> consistent over its history. There is a group that calls itself
>> "Catholics for Choice". Like many issues, there is dissent within
>> the church itself.
>>
>> The Church is inconsistent when it calls for Catholics not to
>> vote for those who support Roe vs. Wade. The church is against
>> the death penalty, as well, but doesn't call for people to vote
>> against those who propose it. What is the difference?
>
>Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.
>
>On that same vein, what's the real difference between injecting a chemical
>into a baby's brain as it presents, and just smothering it after birth????

Are you alleging this is done? There are cases where the mother's life is
in danger if the infant can't be removed from the uterus before birth.
Rare these days because of Caesarean sections but they can happen --
where the child is not able to be delivered and it is too late for a
C section. This should not happen with reasonable prenatal care and a
an attended birth. But it can. In such a case it is a choice between
the life of the baby or the life of the mother or the lives of both.

I remember as a little girl being taken to a funeral home and seeing
a young woman in a coffin with an infant. My relatives whispered to
each other, and I overheard, that both had died during childbirth.

When I was pregnant for the first time somehow I got hold of a medical
tesxtbook for nurses on obstetrics. After reading it and looking at
the photos it is a wonder I ever had one baby, let alone eight!
Now that was in 1950 and obstetrics has improved drastically since
that time, but yet all the horrible things detailed in that text can
indeed happen.
>
>How about killing it when it's 6 months old?

I trust you are not serious.
>
>What we need is an effective contraception chemical in, for instance, the
>water and a doctor's prescription in order to counteract
>it........maybe.....???

No contraceptive solution would please the Catholic Church, although
the majority of Catholics disagree. It presently teaches that any
attempt to prevent conception by any means other than abstinence is
sinful. I guess that somehow sperm is holy.

>cheers
>
>bob
>

.

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