Re: Another critical extract re: aloes from Pesher of Christ website

In article <2b099025-3c91-4029-b6ae-7315bc8a0c69@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<Kelly> wrote:
On Jun 1, 10:18 am, Dave <pchristain...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yet, clearly, Barbara made a mistake here.
Further, I would have expected you to know
what she meant from context but you were
not able to read between the lines and I had
to spell it out for you.

A scholar doesn't make these kind of mistakes in a published work -
and when they do, they admit it. BT is not relying on you to set the
record straight nor read between the lines for her. In fact, she says
you are not reliable regarding her work.


Scholar's make all kinds of mistakes in published work. I would estimate that
the majority of mistakes in publishable works survive in print to be later
detected by the smart reader.

The whole point of academic review is to find precisely the types of mistakes
that are often made. Errors in use of language are common. I was taught here
to write albeit rather than all be it. The difference between being a scholar
and not being a scholar is that scholars know a great deal about very little,
while non-scholars know not very much about a great deal. There is perhaps
a growing sense that academically we are limited by the fact that we have not
been given a wide enough training to be able to draw on different disciplines
to find synergy between them. We are reduced to applying technics we know,
to problems that permit such application, rather than seeing the bigger
picture.

I am very reluctant be be dragged into a debate on BT, because to me such a
debate is a complete and utter waste of time. I am with Ian in saying that
it is quite possible that the majority of English and Canadian Quakers
attach little real importance to the issue of whether Jesus died on the
cross and was subsequently raised to life, or died and was then dead, or
even perhaps did not die, but actually survived. They might well look at
the facts of the case and form their own opinions as members of a jury
might, but they wouldn't expect others to necessarily agree with their
own established opinion. Quakers I think attach far more significance
to Jesus's life, teachings, and message than to his death, for either they
are rooted in the Christian tradition and have come to see Jesus not as
personal saviour but rather personal teacher, or they are not rooted in
the Christian tradition, but find an attachment to Jesus, because he was
in so many ways so much more like them than Christians tend to be.

Rather than focus on mere words, I'd be more interested in the rather
sweeping question of why it should matter to Quakers that one person
says this about Jesus's execution, and that another says that. Is
the one persons opinion going to make them better able to walk the
walk and talk the talk, and the other persons opinion less able to.

Ian

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