Re: Why some and not others?
- From: David <pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:53:19 -0700 (PDT)
On May 30, 1:10 am, "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAM...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David wrote:
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I propose a select few spiritual seekers such as myself first
try a wide range of religions, not just intellectually but actually
living and associating with people in different phases.
Many seekers do this - my friend did and Ihave done so a little too
(although haven't gone so far as to join a commune with like minded folks.
yet)
In my college days I was briefly part of a commune when communes
were in. Thanks for the memory.
In my case it ranged acoss a score of Christian denominations
into the Jewish, New Age, and Oriental (Yoga, Nicherin Buddhist,
Zen).
The cognitive dissonance in this process over years cannot be
downplayed.
Did you find that most people were seeking the answers to the same few
questions or was there bigger differences in your experiences of each group?
Doubtless, most people I met were working towards love in marriage
and family. When a group holds the celibate ideal such as Indian
Yoga or Zen, family life is put aside.
In a twist of fate my inner scientific mentality decisively insisted
on searching and finding the historical Jesus to reconcile it
with the Christ of faith. In the end I found the historical Jesus and
Christian Origins (from the Essene; not from the Jewish mainstream).
I'm glad you've found something to 'anchor' your spiritual system on and tha
tyou've managed to find sense within it.
The whole Essenic thing has absolutley no resonance in it for me. Left me
flat, dry and bored. however, even though thats the way it was for me, I am
not dismissing yoru experiences David, merely pointing out that mine are
different to yours (and everyone else's)
Historically, Jesus Christ was an Essene who later split. Through the
authority as David King that he was born into, he promoted a social
revolution by allowing the unclean classes into the sanctuary for
access to God.
However, my experience was traumatic because Dr. Thiering overtuned
my traditional Christian theology with her truths unknown for 2000
years.
For now I pass on that Jesus is not the only path. Compassion for
the suffering of others is a key element for maturity; regardless of
the religion one was born into.
In principle, I agree with you there.
An interesting point came out of a discussion over karma. If in the karmic
system, 'suffering' is the way to balance 'bad karma' so one can advance in
spiritual eveolution (as is suggested by some), would it not then be better
to let the suffering suffer, lest we ease their suffering and thereby slow
down or prevent their spiritual evolution?
No, their suffering will ease thru the throttling of desire.
Our need for community is very great; no one can find
meaning in life all alone.
Some hermits may disagree with you there, but I think thats *generally*
true.
The zen of it is to find one's original face before one
was born (mystical).
With the idea of reincarantion, surely there are many faces before this
physical birth occured. And if you go back tot he source, isn't the truly
original face the face of God (or is that what you meant?)
...
I tried to put in words that which is undescribable. Best translation
-
find your destiny because everyone has one established before
one is born.
David Christainsen
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