Re: Thiering Pesher


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pchristainsen appears to have used Googles "delete post"
feature to remove the evidence of his being a liar from
the archive, but it is still on my server and replies
quoting it still exist on Google.

Here is the thread from my server, including the parts that
pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx removed from the Google Groups archive.

I snipped the tangents where, for example, pchristainsen
sudenly start talking about some sort of ministry to marriage
he thinks he has. I can post the full text if anyone wishes.

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From: "pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx" <pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Date: 2 Jan 2007 09:34:43 -0800
Message-ID: <1167759283.797460.244560@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi John,

Your premise about me here is 100% wrong.

If you would exercise your powers of observation on SRQ carefully,
I habitually refer specifically to 2 Thiering urls to let SRQers judge
for themselves the merit whether Dr. Barbara Thiering can contribute
in an important way to Christian Origins.

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From: John <john@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:27:41 +0000
Message-ID: <8o6dnZHEU_X-QQfYnZ2dnUVZ8t-nnZ2d@xxxxxxxxx>

pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Your premise about me here is 100% wrong.

Oh, I don't think so, I think that at a time when you were looking for a
way out of your self induced problems you found a bright shiny bauble
in the form of the so-called 'works' of Dr. Barbara Thiering.

If you would exercise your powers of observation on SRQ carefully, I
habitually refer specifically to 2 Thiering urls to let SRQers judge
for themselves the merit whether Dr. Barbara Thiering can contribute
in an important way to Christian Origins.

Yes, I've seen them and read the relevant pages, together with others.
There are the archetypal diagrams superimposed on the human figure,
Qabbalism, and that old favourite Pythagoras, it seems to be a
syncretic agolmeration of Masonic symbolism and the DaVinci Code, if I
read further will I come across a connection to the Knights Templar?

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From: "pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx" <pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Date: 2 Jan 2007 16:10:56 -0800
Message-ID: <1167783055.990950.56850@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

John wrote:

pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

If you would exercise your powers of observation on SRQ carefully, I
habitually refer specifically to 2 Thiering urls to let SRQers judge
for themselves the merit whether Dr. Barbara Thiering can contribute
in an important way to Christian Origins.

Yes, I've seen them and read the relevant pages, together with others.
There are the archetypal diagrams superimposed on the human figure,
Qabbalism, and that old favourite Pythagoras, it seems to be a
syncretic agolmeration of Masonic symbolism and the DaVinci Code, if I
read further will I come across a connection to the Knights Templar?

No - I invite any other SRQer to check the 2 Thiering urls for the
truth which has been misrepresented by John.

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From: John <john@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 08:21:54 +0000
Message-ID: <tdydnRdik_Y5-gbYnZ2dnUVZ8q6nnZ2d@xxxxxxxxx>


John wrote:

Yes, I've seen them and read the relevant pages, together with
others. There are the archetypal diagrams superimposed on the human
figure, Qabbalism, and that old favourite Pythagoras, ÿit seems to
be a syncretic agolmeration of Masonic symbolism and the DaVinci
Code, if I read further will I come across a connection to the
Knights
Templar?

No - I invite any other SRQer to check the 2 Thiering urls for the
truth which has been misrepresented by John.

I write too soon, here they are: http://tinyurl.com/y472pd or click
on "The Rosslyn Chapel and the Knights Templar" on the index
page, "...I would add that the fact that the Qumran community were
intent on recovering control of the Jerusalem temple, as shown by the
Temple Scroll, must now be taken into account in any history of the
*Templars*."
--
John

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From: "pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx" <pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Date: 3 Jan 2007 13:10:02 -0800
Message-ID: <1167858601.193619.131840@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

John wrote:


I asked,
if I read further will I come across a connection to the
Knights Templar?

To which question Dave/pchristainsen answered

No - I invite any other SRQer to check the 2 Thiering urls for the
truth which has been misrepresented by John.

The broad context of all recent SRQ exchanges is Dr. Thiering
Scholarly Work.

It strikes me that John does not know what her scholarly work
is because he has not read it and I have. My NO is to cut John
off from mindless tangents like Templars that exist as itty-bitty
factoids on BT's website. For John to lock on to that is useless
nit-picking and a misrepresentation.

One also needs to remember that in the past not only I but others have
repeatedly sought answers from you only to be met with denials, lies
and evasions, (on the matter of lies, see your answers to me in the
immediate and recent past).

Engineer's screening software is looking better to me all the time
so that I would be spared the insults.

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From: John <john@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:22:53 +0000
Message-ID: <EYCdnVDRfPpfsQHYnZ2dnUVZ8s-qnZ2d@xxxxxxxxx>

pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

John wrote:

I asked,

if I read further will I come across a connection to the
Knights Templar?

To which question Dave/pchristainsen answered

No - I invite any other SRQer to check the 2 Thiering urls
for the truth which has been misrepresented by John.

My NO is to cut John off from mindless tangents like Templars that
exist as itty-bitty factoids on BT's website. For John to lock on
to that is useless nit-picking and a misrepresentation.

For you to answer No to a direct question is a lie. dressing it
up as something else is misrepresentation.

Engineer's screening software is looking better to me all the
time so that I would be spared the insults.

Where you give an answer that is not true, and as you point out
above that answer was intentionally untrue, it is a lie, calling
it a lie is not an insult it is a statement of fact.

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From: "pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx" <pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Date: 3 Jan 2007 14:47:34 -0800
Message-ID: <1167864454.040394.163670@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

John wrote:

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For you to answer No to a direct question is a lie. dressing it up as
something else is misrepresentation.

You didn't understand the context, did you?

Engineer's screening software is looking better to me all the time so
that I would be spared the insults.

Where you give an answer that is not true, and as you point out above
that answer was intentionally untrue, it is a lie, calling it a lie is
not an insult it is a statement of fact.

Your sense of truth is warped (I say this for the benefit of others.)

But, you can repent as anyone can.

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From: John <john@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kirk, David/ pchristainsen and 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:17:40 +0000
Message-ID: <LIqdnYdCTpUIpAHYnZ2dnUVZ8t_inZ2d@xxxxxxxxx>

pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

John wrote:
...
For you to answer No to a direct question is a lie. dressing it up as
something else is misrepresentation.

You didn't understand the context, did you?

Yes, I understood the context. It is that you wish to tell lies, (make
untruthfull statements), without acknowledging that you do so.

Your sense of truth is warped...

In what way is expecting a truthfull answer a 'warped sense
of truth'. I can understand that making untruthful statements
and maintaining that they are 'truth' is warped. You delude
yourself.

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(At which point pchristainsen changed the subject.





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