Re: "Thiering Pesher"



John wrote:
Marshall Price wrote:

It's a rhetorical device, not a list of facts. What she's saying is
that there's something seriously wrong with the attitude of ignoring the
inconsistencies, which is what most people do when they read the Bible.

pp 113: "...he has not renounced the sword, though he detests having to use
it. Once faced with the dire needs of his city against invading armies, he
becomes a brave and resourceful war leader."
She's using the term to refer generally to a person who understands how
to read the hidden message.

pp 135: "...offers it to him merely for safekeeping since it is a 'dangerous
charge', he asserts his title to it as the rightful owner, 'Dangerous
indeed but not to all."
Right. Again, she's explaining the line of reasoning which led to her
insight.

pp 141 "...he has done it with pity for weakness but without giving up the
principle that duty requires those to go on who can..."
But she warns about that (on that page?). She says you have to dig in
pretty deep before you start to see it coming together...

pp 177: "They pass over his prostrate body as if it were not there.
evidently a mysterious struggle against nameless evils is taking place..."
No, the motive is the same. And it's a mistake to call the history
recorded there "well known". It wasn't known at all until Thiering did
the work.

pp 181: "...who travels far from 'from Daybreak to Evening' and in his old
age comes home, tired to hand on his passport to his successors. there is
no denying the elegiac tone..."
Your approach is not to explain, but to explain away."

pp 11: "...if you must, he seems to say, but do not expect me to bind myself
by an admission that you are right. Better for you not to be too sure."
If you ask me, she's right, and you're doing the same thing as Ehrman
and every other strongly motivated "Christian" who complains about her
not being supported by others. Nobody is supported until the support
has a chance to come out!

pp 63: "...'it is perilous to study too deeply the arts of the enemy, for
good or ill.' Initiation graduates insensibility into imitation."
Until then, we have to judge for ourselves. Either that, or admit we
don't care enough to ferret out the truth.

Indeed we do!

Two thousand years of bumbling down blind alleys can get to be a habit.

That may well be true, but only if one is "bumbling down blind alleys".

I haven't the vaguest idea what you're trying to say. What does "pp
113" mean, for example, and what do your insertions have to do with my post?

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