Re: Lying is wrong, deception not always wrong



<qspirit@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:25:23 GMT, "1st Century Apostolic
> Traditionalist" <nospamatall@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>><qspirit@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> It's fine to have just the Spirit--for
>>>there *is* only one way to "the father" (shudder at the use of a
>>>metaphor of the times that has misled so many into the cultural
>>>misogyny into which Paul so doggedly imprisoned)--and that "one way"
>>
>>Anyone who infers that the Apostle Paul, especially called and 
>>commissioned
>>by Christ and Almighty God, was a misled, cultural misogynist, is a LIAR.
>
>
> A good thing, I suppose, then that I just said it right out and didn't
> infer it.  ;=]

You certainly talked yourself into that one, thus you admit yourself as 
guilty.

> Like all Friends I am not a respecter of fallible persons, in whose
> number Paul was (as were all of the first century apostles you
> worship).  I am in unity with them when they are right and not when
> they are wrong.  In the case of women he was wrong.

No! he was, and is still, exactly right, it is you Timothy who are wrong, so 
very wrong, and uttering such a profound wicked untruth is beneath contempt.

Paul was especially chosen and ordained by Almighty God and Christ himself 
to teach the us, the Gentiles, and as "ALL SCRIPTURE" is God breathed or 
inspired, you are in sinning greatly in proclaiming Paul a women hater.

Shame on you indeed!
<Tut's in disgust.>

Gal. 1:1 "Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, 
and God the Father, who raised him from the dead; "

Eph. 1:1" Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God"

Acts 9:15 But the Lord [Jesus] said unto him, Go thy way: for he [Paul] is a 
chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and 
the children of Israel:
16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his 
hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto 
thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy 
sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he 
received sight forthwith, and arose, and was **baptized.
Yes! Paul also was baptised, just as Christ was.

1 Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our 
Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;"

Titus 1:1 "Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according 
to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is 
after godliness;"

1 Timothy 2:7 "Whereunto I [Paul] am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I 
speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith 
and verity.

2 Timothy 1:11 "Whereunto I [Paul] am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, 
and a teacher of the Gentiles."

And who 'ordained' or 'appointed' you as an apostle, Mr. 
Timothy?.....certainly not the same God who called Paul and 'ordained' and 
'appointed' him [and certainly not you] to teach the Gentiles.

Your overtly smug, pompous arrogance, is really most nauseating.

Jeff...
"16 Take heed unto thyself, and the doctrines; continue in them: for in
doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."
  1 Tim 4:16 (KJV)

Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of 
you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins......41 Then they 
that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were 
added unto them about three thousand souls."







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