Re: Does America REALLY Want a Drug-Free Society?


"Engineer" <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Dennis White wrote:
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>>Engineer wrote...
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>>> Again, the author should study
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>>This is the opposite argument, and has little to do with what I am saying.
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> YOU are saying? You followed the statement (by Holliston Perni) "I was
> just reading ARIADNE'S CLEW, by J.P. Befumo (an ass-kicking book, btw),
> and came cross the following excerpt that really made me stop and think.
> Here it is:" with a number of statements, apparently further quotes.
> I clearly indicated as much when I wrote "Dennis White quoted J.P.
> Befumo:"
> rather than "Dennis White wrote:" (If I was addressing comments by you
> the context would be different and I would respond differently. When
> addressing a quote from someone I know nothing about, I can only respond
> to the words in the quoted passage.



There are some wires being crossed. I have never read J.P. Befumo. I never
quoted that person. I don't even know who it is. Apparently I did not
clearly deliniate my post from that of Holliston Perni. It was he(?) that
quoted JPB. I think you may have thought I was commenting on the book and
author cited. I guess I thought you were refering to me when you used the
term "author". It seemed very out of character for you to address me in
such an impersonal way...I should have caught on that there was some
confusion on both our parts.
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>>> Why does the author think that
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>>I have never said
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> Were you not quoting quoted J.P. Befumo? I clearly stated "Dennis White
> quoted J.P. Befumo:" at the top, and addressed my comments to "the
> author."
> Why should I have taken into consideration what you - a separate person -
> has or has not said?

No, I didn't quote this J.P. Befumo person. It was Hollister Perni.
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>>> ..but he doesn't want
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>>Why do you accuse me of such a thing?
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> Were you not quoting quoted J.P. Befumo? My conclusion comes directly
> from the text that you quoted.

Perhaps, but if it appeared as if I was quoting someone it was certainly a
mistake on may part, for I had no intention of ever giving the impression I
knew anything about JPB or his "kick ass book" <g>.
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>>> ...he says that he wants
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>>That is bull***, and you should have remembered that from any
>>other conversation I've had about
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> Were you not quoting quoted J.P. Befumo? Why should I remember
> conversations with Dennis White when making a reply to something
> written by J.P. Befumo?

You shouldn't. I don't know who JPB is, and I don't usually turn to authors
to back up any particularview I may or may not have./
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>>I don't know why you feel the need to attack me in such a personal way.
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> Were you not quoting quoted J.P. Befumo? If not, I would have expected
> you to reply to "Dennis White quoted J.P. Befumo:" by pointing out that
> I was mistaken. Again, one does not respond to a quote from a book in
> the same manner one would respond to an old friend.

Somehow there has been a terrible mix-up. I am unsure how it
transpired, but believe me I am very relieved. I couldn't imagine why you
would have responded to me in the way I thought you had. I know that we
have some disagreement concerning our views on drug-use, but I thought
(rightly, I think) that both respected the others opinion as being driven by
what we percieved to be right. If I have written anything that was
offensive, please try see that I was under the impression it was me---and my
non-alligned views---that I thought you were ready to attack.
BTW, in all of this it occured to me that I all would be better served
if I were to more clearly identify the culprit I am speaking of. We
generally use the term "drug use" or "drug abuse" or simply drugs". To be
blunt, I have no particular problem with drugs or drug use. My concern is
addiction. There are many proscribed drugs that may be used medically or
recreationally that don't result in addiction. I have no problem with their
being used. There are many legal drugs that result in addiction that I feel
are harmful to individuals and society. I would like to see their impast
lessened. There are people who use addictive drugs that don't become
addicted. I cannot stop anyone from using. I simply wish there was a way
to rid individuals and society from the devestating toll addiction takes. I
don't know the answer. I am sure it is not prohibition. I very sincerely
doubt decriminalizing all drugs will make that much difference, although I
don't advocate treating drug-users as criminals. I know of a few things
that seem to alleviate and arrest addiction, but I don't know how to prevent
it. If I did I would bottle it and give it away to anyone who asked.

Dennis



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