Re: To copy the words of others and not attribute them to the original author is dishonest.


"Dennis White" <dennybop@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Ian Davis" <ijdavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Both you and Engineer are being unduly harsh here.

Because they are desperate to get revenge for my exposure of their
intellectual and Scriptural inadequacies over the past few weeks, and thus
seek to grasp at any opportunity to score a point whether in error of the
true
facts or not.

>> Jeff cut and pasted
>> information on the web and presented it as his own.

No Ian.
I never got this article or the information from the Web.

>> He probably wasn't
>> aware of how seriously Quakers take honesty, and he probably wasn't aware
>> that his action would be one that others might find fault with.
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>
> It is not unduly harsh to hold ourselves and others to attribute the
> works and words of others. Though Friends believe in truthfulness, it
> goes beyond a Quakerly desire for honesty. It is widely recognized
> throughout academia, throughout the arts and letters, throughout
> journalism and throughout Biblical scholarship that one MUST attribute
> authorship to those whom one quotes. Anyone as capable of quoting
> Scripture as Jeff is, and anyone taking as literal a view as Jeff is MUST
> acknowledge the source of all material to be held as competent, studious
> and serious. This is a matter not only of honesty but of scholarship. If
> Jeff is not aware of this he must be made aware of it now. Jeff has
> never, as far as I know lifted direct quotes of the Apostles from the
> Bible and passed them off as his own words. He (or you or I or anyone
> else should NEVER fail attribution. This is not only an ethical matter.
> It is also a legal matter. There is no way to be unduly harsh in this
> matter. It is at the heart of intellectual property and proprierity.
>
>
> Were he
>> to repeatedly do this sort of thing as some others have done here, then I
>> think you might have grounds for the harsh tone taken, but as far as I
>> know this is not something Jeff has done repeatedly over the objections
>> of others.
>
> I don't know if he has or hasn't. I'm not willing to go back and check.
> I only know that there is no real excuse for not attributing the words of
> others to their true authors.

Dennis, get your facts correct as you making a fool of yourself once again.

As I have already stated in another post......"Actually Dennis, it was a
compilation of virtually unknown authors including
myself and has no 'restrictions' on publishing or reproduction."
Which I have had in my possession for 20-30 years and it has no author or
copyright attachments, thus you are another one creating a lot of
unnecessary mischievous and libellous, inflammatory untrue accusations
without any checking of the actual facts.
Shame on you Dennis.

You and Engineer are indeed very dangerous men.
You either falsely accuse or libel without factual proof, by using your
own misguided 'intellectual' guesswork.

Jeff...





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