- From: David Bowie <db.news@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:47:44 -0000
David Bowie wrote:
Beer is the most common mild drink made with barley.
You know, it occurs to me that you've made this claim before, but
i've never seen any evidence that this is, in fact, the case.
<snip reply dealing with current affairs>
More to the point of the context of the WoW, i've seen no evidence
that this was the case in the mid-19th century, before the industrial
hyperproduction of beer began. Therefore, CFR.
By 1607 the first shipment of beer arrived in the Americas.
Within 2 years a brewery was operating.
Industrial hyperproduction of beer did not begin until later, however. I
don't doubt that beer is the most widely produced barley-based drink
*now*, because it's been industrialized. I'm asking about a
*pre*-industrial era, however, when the production of beer in such
mind-boggling (ha-ha!) quantities wouldn't have been possible.
The history of barley being used to make beer is as old as
mankind's knowledge and use of barley...
Probably so--but so, in all likelihood, is barley soup and barley tea
(barley boiled in water, a very widely drunk beverage in past
centuries). The time depth here demonstrates nothing.
...Again, it's like asking
for a reference to the use of sunshine for warming human bodies.
It's just part of the collective unconscious...
The use of sunshine for warming human bodies can be accurately (and
scientifically, in fact, should you wish to go so far) demonstrated as
fact. You have given nothing in response to my CFR aside from claims
about the modern state of things (which doesn't really apply, since the
WoW was given before the industrial revolution), and general platitudes
about general perceptions of the world (though, i suspect, these are
really *your* perceptions, generalized to others).
every human knows instinctively from birth: Beer is the most
common beverage made from barley. It always has been, and it
always will be.
And i work in a field where we discover every day that people's
assumptions about the way the world (in my field's case, specifically
the way language, especially its social applications) works are often,
if not usually, spectacularly wrong.
So--you keep making your claim, now it's time to prove it.
David, who firmly believes that conventional wisdom is overrated
David Bowie http://pmpkn.net/lx
Jeanne's Two Laws of Chocolate: If there is no chocolate in the
house, there is too little; some must be purchased. If there is
chocolate in the house, there is too much; it must be consumed.
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