Re: Joseph Smith: 7000 years for earth?
- From: joseph_daniel_zukiger@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:35:53 -0000
jenniferr8@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> "Woody Brison" <woody_bri...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:11i1d9l8romjvab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Trying to guess the length of a year on Kolob is like asking
> > how high is up?
>
> Not really. Joseph Smith explained it in Abraham 3:4.
>
> "And the Lord said unto me, by the Urim and Thummim, that
> Kolob was after the manner of the Lord, according to its
> times and seasons in the revolutions thereof; that one
> revolution was a day unto the Lord, after his manner of
> reckoning, it being one thousand years according to the
> time appointed unto that whereon thou standest. This is
> the reckoning of the Lord's time, according to the
> reckoning of Kolob".
Yeah, that's what it says in Abraham 3: 4.
> Kolob governs planet Earth according to him.
You could say it's the root of hierarchy chart for this wandering star.
> "And the Lord said unto me: These are the governing ones;
> and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near
> unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to
> govern all those which belong to the same order as that
> upon which thou standest".
>
> It still boils down to whether Smith believed earth's
> temporal existence is 7000 Kolob years ( 7 x 365 million
> earth years) or 7000 earth years.
Where do you get 365 million years from? Could you repeat that for me?
I was following you on the numerology game of seven days for the Lord
being 7 times 1000 years, because of verse four up there. But then you
brought in 365 as a factor without really explaining that. If we had a
scripture somewhere that said Kolob years are 365 Kolob days, then I
could understand the 365,000, but I've never seen such a scripture. (If
I were speculating, I'd speculate that Kolob might not have years,
myself.) But why then multiply Kolob years by yet a thousand as if that
were somehow supposed to yield God's days?
Or is it seals? if it's seals, where does it say a seal is a thousand
Kolob years?
Elsewhere, it says that the entire temporal existence of the earth is
as one day with God, I think.
You have to remember. God is an eternal being. Time doesn't seem to
flow the same for eternal beings as it does for mortal beings.
> Only then can you
> supply meaningful information to what he says happens in
> each of the 7 intervals.
I don't really know if trying to play numerological games actually
reveals any meaning about the seven seals.
> In my opinion, I think he meant 7000 earth years and he
> just failed to factor in the major earthquake at the
> beginning of the sixth period.
Well, how about the (ahem) 30 minutes of silence? And what does a time,
times, and half a time have to do with 1260 days?
I think what you are seeing as periods within one of the seals is
actually a review of the seven seals -- going back over the events of
each in metaphor. And it seems to me that we can tell more about the
correlation with history from the events than we can tell by playing
games with numbers.
> Either that, or he didn't
> believe the Bible to be the Word of God even after
> translating it correctly.
Well, my personal opinion, as I mentioned before, is that trying to
establish too much meaning to time before Adam and after the
resurrection is frought with error.
JouDanZuki
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