Re: Errors in the Bible? (nope!)
- From: "Gerald L. O'Barr" <globarr@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 02:48:51 -0000
Jeff Shirton <jshir...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Gerald O'Barr wrote:
>> . . .
<O'Barr deletes all - almost all>
Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@xxxxxxxxx> comments:
Dear Jeff,
I am sorry about the lack of references. I know
it is better to have references. But today, if
anyone wants a reference, it is usually easy to find
one.
I know I must have done something wrong, because
what I usually present, with no references, etc, is
not usually worth anyone's answering. In fact, the
last two posts I tried to make were refused by
S.R.M., and this might be a third. My posts were
refused because one had no content, and one offended
both men and women.
So why did you respond to one with such little
content?
I notice that you wanted to make the point that
the Bible is perfect. (Not most perfect, just
perfect!) I was not talking about the perfection of
the Bible in any physical sense. I was only saying
that the Bible could be used to feel the Spirit of
God. For this, it is more than perfect! It is
totally perfect! It is completely perfect. Or to
say it the way you would want, it is able to
accomplish this act!
As to the physical perfections of this Book: We
could argue over every word in it, every thought,
every page, and never get through it. But to me, let
us look at the fruit it offers: The Bible is used by
two or more different churches (hundreds?), and they
do not seem to end up having or being the same
church. Why is that?
I say they end up with different churches because
the Bible has some kind of a weakness. Either it is
not able to be read or understood the same way by
all, or it is too incomplete, or it is in error, or
it is something not adequate for God fearing men. I
do not care if you say it is perfect. The facts do
not support you, as is provided by the simple facts
that there are two or more different churches that
exist. Therefore, say all you want. But until you
explain why these different churches exist, all based
upon the same perfect Bible, I will have a hard time
hearing you.
It really is a waste of time to argue. But just
to keep the record straight, let me refer to at least
one of your points:
O'Barr had said: . . .
>> In John, it is stated that if all the works of
>> Christ were written down (and it says they should
>> be written down), ...
And then you said:
> It says no such thing, of course.
> It says (John 21:25) that *if* they should (ie.
> were) written down, the world could not contain all
> the books that would be needed.
>
>If you say that they "should be" written down, then
>you seem to be saying that God expects us to perform
>an impossible task, namely to write more books than
>is physically able (ie. more than the world could
>contain).
O'Barr comments:
The last line of the verse you mentioned says
about these books: '. . . , I suppose that even the
world itself could not contain the books that should
be written. Amen.'
Now should these books be written? John said that
these books should be written! And John did not say
that he knew that there would not be room for them,
he only supposed that it might be so. So why do you
care about all these details, and yet fail to get
them right?
You said that ' . . . prophets ended with John, at
the time of Christ.' And yet in the last days there
will be men walking the streets of Jerusalem, crying
warnings to the people, and fulfilling the call of a
prophet. John the Revelator said that he saw, in the
last days, an angle bringing to the earth the ever
lasting gospel, to be preached to all the world. How
do you think all this will be done? Will there be
preachers to do this? Will they have an office?
Will they have the right to baptized? Surely you
have to think about these things.
There certainly could be many statements made that
there was coming a time when no prophets would any
longer be available, that there would be an end for
such blessings, for such a state did come and did
exist. But then, there was promised that in the last
days, all things would be restored. The time would
come when the true Gospel would be restored, when
truth would flood the earth, when men will be blessed
with all things, before the final judgment.
Thanks for reading.
Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@xxxxxxxxx>
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