Re: Grammar States and Tertiary Phonemes
- From: Joubin Houshyar <Sun_of_27@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:29:46 -0600
Salaam,
~!~ ~!~ ~!~
And Recite
What has been Revealed to thee
of
The Book of thy LORD
There is none
who can 'change' HIS Words
And you will not find
any Refuge beside HIM
~!~ ~!~ ~!~
Dara wrote:
Human being is a Translator who translates from the Spiritual Realm
into the corporeal universe, here; and Divine Words encode within
their phones units of spiritual cognizance [...]
You wrote:
Comment:-[...]
It has been pointed out that the word "spiritual" can be
understood as referring to consciousness, conscience and will.
That formulation can be trivially demonstrated to be inconsistent.
(Try: " 'x' consciousness", where x is one of possibilities:
{spiritual, material}).
It has also been pointed out that there is a difference between
the reality, the experience of it and the verbal description
and that the Word of God refers to the real forcess, interactions and
processes of nature
whereas human language contains words that are tokens or signs.
Word of God precedes the phenomenological context of material beings.
(C.f. Genesis 1)
It is more accurate to say that 'Nature is the mind of Matter', and
thus, it is an 'application' of the 'science' of a (relatively)
'transcendent' realm.
A 'mind' is a unified system, a 'cosmos'. (Thus it is not appropriate
to speak of 'the mind of God', as that is a violation of Unity of
God.)
An 'application' of a governing system X -- any application -- is
reducible to a set of 'operations' in that system. Each operation is
(by definition) unique and thus can be uniquely indexed (i.e.
'numbered' or 'named'.). The space of all possible operations is the
'name-space' or 'number-space', and this is bounded.
Thus each 'application' is at its simplest, a sequential activation of
a set of operations. (That is a 'process'.) So, each 'application'
can be 'described' (or defined) by (at its simplest) a sequence of
identifiers (names or numbers).
Now lets step back and consider a 'letter' as a 'unique' element of an
'alphabet', and a unique sequence of letters as a 'word', and a
'name' (identifier') as a special 'class' of 'word' (i.e. 'proper
noun').
It is possible to formally show (but this is not the place for it)
that there exists a mapping function between the 'number-space' and
'word-space'. (Let the reader assume it as given.)
In general, we would posit that a 'number' is 'representable' in a
given base system (such as 'binary' (base 2), or *tertiary* (base
3), ... or 'decimal' (base 10) ..), and that each 'representation of a
digit' in that 'base' is a 'letter'. (For example, we would say the
decimal base numbering system has 10 letters in its 'alphabet': '1',
'2', ...'9', '0' -- which we could alternatively map to 'a', 'b', 'c',
'd', ...etc )
Thus, each multi-digit 'number representation in base x' is mappable
to a 'word' constructed from an alphabet of 'x' letters.
What is important to understand is that there exists a 'natural' order
to 'numbers' (e.g. in base 10 representation: 1 precedes 2 precedes 3
precedes 4 precedes ... precedes 10 ... etc.) where as the space of
'words' is un-Ordered. (I.e. we can speak of 'relationships' between
words (such as root letters in Arabic - e.g. Ahmad is related to
Hamid), but we can not say (for example) that 'after Ahmad comes
Hamid'.)
So this means that there are 'gaps' in the 'word-space' between
'acceptable' 'words'. e.g.(in English) the valid sequence of words
are (from the beginning using letter 'a') : abaca -> abacas -> aback -
abacus -> ... where as the '"natural" sequence of contiguous lettersis: a -> aa -> aaa -> ... > aba -> abb -> abc -> abd -> ...
So we say that 'the possible' is not necessary 'the true'. (i.e. one
can 'formulate' a 'word' which is a 'lie'.) [now consider the
thoughts of Pythagoras ...]
Now, we step forward and consider 'sequences of numbers/words' chained
together. e.g. "taken aback by the number on abacus". Now we *had
to* utilize the 'white space' character to represent that sequence of
'words', but there no such 'letter' as 'space' in an alphabet.
That is because the irreducible essence of the 'Word' is that it is
'Spoken'.
So we can 'say': taken (pause) aback (pause) by (pause) the (pause)
number (pause) on (pause) the (pause) abacus (stop)
That is 'vocalization'.
Now, even if we only use words from our 'dictionary' (i.e the Word-
Space), not all possible arrangements of words are necessarily
'sensible'.
First, we 'classify' of our 'word-space'. We get 'verbs', 'nouns',
'pronouns', etc.
Then, we derive a *grammar*, which is effectively a set of both
'local' and 'global' 'templates' expressed in terms of 'word-
classifiers'. [c.f Chomsky]
At this point we have a 'language'. (i.e. given a universal grammar,
we would have a "Realm Nature". (c.f. "corporeal realm", "Spiritual
Realm".)
And using this 'language', we can now 'formulate' 'thoughts'. (It is
definitely important to note here that (in analog to the letter
sequences) we can at this point 'express higher level constructs which
are grammatically correct but not necessarily true. (C.f. Godel).
e.g. "taken aback by the abacus on the number")
It is also certainly interesting and important to note here as well
that: 'a grammar can and usually is expressed using the constructs of
the language that it defines'. (Ponder that ...)
Thus, we (hopefully) see that we can arrive at Self-Referential (and
Meta-logical) Systems that can engender 'Unique (Complex) Constructs',
using only the conceptual elements of letters, grammar, and
expression.
A construct such as a 'text' (i.e. "Book").
There are no "forces" or "interactions" in 'Sentient Reality', just as
there are not "forces" in a 'Book'. Yet do we not see, clearly, that
'a Book' is/can_be an 'ordered', 'unified', 'meaningful', ...,
'coherent'?
So we conclude that in the irreducible essence of Sentient Reality
there is only Alphabet, Grammar, and Vocalization.
All else is 'illusion'.
Thus:
Dara wrote:
Human being is a Translator [mapping function] who translates [maps]
from the Spiritual Realm
into the corporeal universe, here; and Divine Words encode within
their phones units of spiritual cognizance [...]
That is certainly an accurate and succinct expression of a truth for
its intended audience.
And Remember:
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Now what is 'moving' in response to that which is 'finalized'?
http://www.untiredwithloving.org/grammar_mouth_motions.jpg
/& Salaam
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