Re: Good stuff in the Koran


Altway wrote:
kleinecke@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:-

Some of the lessons learnt from Quran that apply to our general living

The problem is that the references to the Qur'an do not, in fact, say
what they have been made to say. There is nothing evil here, but such
sloppiness should induce doubt in an alert reader. My translations.

Comment:-

I do not see why "kleinecke" wishes to restrict the meaning and application
of the Quran in the way he does.

I am arguing for a "literal" reading of the Qur'an (whenevr possible).
If the Qur'an says such-and-such and such-and-such has a clear literal
meaning, I argue that it is a mistake to read more into it than it
says. Passages without a clear literal meaning (assuming there are
such) are a different problem.

In this particular case the poster presented some advice (all of it
good advice, so far as I know) and supported the advice by references
to proof texts in the Qur'an. The flaw I was pointing out was that the
proof texts frequently did not really support the advice. It is one
thing to give good advice (as Luqman did) and another to claim to be
quoting good advice from the Qur'an when you cannot show that the
advice, however good, actually came from the Qur'an.

He should know by now that the Quran contains instructions for Muslims and
that it teaches the same message as was given through all previous
dispensations of genuine religion - i.e. through the Messengers and
Prophets, and that all who followed them are also . So that which was given
through them also applies to Muslims.

Might well be true, but its relevence escapes me.

He should also know that the verses in
the Quran are compact, having general as well as particular meaning and
having several levels of meaning.

Oddly enough, I know no such thing. That is a specifically human
opinion about how to read the Qur'an. One passage says there are
passages that must be interpreted metaphorically, but, so far as I
know, there is no support in the Qur'an for the opinion that any part
of it has more than one meaning. Or that such things as levels of
meaning even exist.

I fail to see how it is possible for human opinions to improve on the
word of God.

.

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