Re: The 'Corruption' of the Injil.

as-salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu!

Abdalla Alothman wrote:

> You mean 3:7.

Shukran. In most of the translations I have, it's 7, and 6 only
in one or two. I have not found consistency in numbering the Ayats,
and do not recall ever seeing any hadith or other authority for how
they are numbered ~ do you know of any, or is this a (useful) innovation?

> Consider:
> 2:70. They said, "Call upon your Lord for us to make plain
> to us what it is. Verily to us all cows are alike, And surely,
> if Allâh wills, we will be guided."
> The cows are the objects that looked alike to the people
> of Musa (a).

"tashaabaha" is clearly on the shabaha stem of the root, the sixth
(tafa'aala) form of the verb, "to resemble one another, be similar to
one another." The sixth form of the verb is collectively reflexive,
viz. "they seem like each other."

I do not expect, Habeebi, to persuade you in this. I believe
we've had this discussion before. I assure you, though, that there
was nothing that could have been "made to seem like it" in the myth
we're discussing ~ the claim of Temple Israel to have crucified the
Messiah 'alaihi as-salaam. The story is made up out of their failed
ambitions alone as is purely disinformation intended to discredit
'Isa. Had they snatched some poor slave off the street and beaten him
to an unrecognizable bloody pulp and hung him up on a stake, it would
still be true that there was nothing at all behind this myth they
spread with Paul ~ nothing but their deception. They never laid a
hand on 'Isa 'alaihi as-salaam.

> There is a basic concept in grammar called attashbeeh
> wal-isti'aara, by the way. It's a highly regarded concept in
> balaagha where the user of the language makes tashbeeh
> (makes one thing similar to another).

Tashbeeh, plural tashbeehat or tashaabih, is again on the shabaha
stem of the root, the active verb. Shubbiha is the second form, the
fa''ala form of the shubiha stem of the root, the passive verb
indicated by the dhamma, meaning "to be doubtful, dubious, uncertain,
obscure."

> 14:18. The parable of those who disbelieve in their Lord is
> that their works are as ashes, on which the wind blows
> furiously on a stormy day, they shall not be able to get
> aught of what they have earned. That is the straying, far
> away (from the Right Path).

> In the aaya above a "similarity" is made between those who
> disbelieve and ashes. The "ka" is prefixed to the Arabic equivalent
> of "Ashes" (ramad, becomes karamad). This is called tashbeeh
> in grammar.

That's what the literary device is called, but no word on the root
sh-b-h appears in Q14:18.

> This is just to show how the word is frequently used in Arabic
> to draw similarities between objects (or subjects). It only shows
> that even in Arabic grammar shbh is used to to draw similarities
> between two things.

That's not in question at all ~ the shahaba stem is the active
verb, and every form of the verb on that stem, transitive or
intransitive, deals with making one thing similar to another,
resemblance of one thing to another, comparing one thing with another,
and so on. But every form of the verb on the passive shubiha stem
denotes obscurity, doubt, vagueness, uncertainty, and suspicion.

The only place these two distinguishable active and passive
meanings of the verb converge is in the ifta'ala or 8th form, where we
find the verbal noun ishtibaah, meaning "resemblance, similarity,
likeness; dubiousness, doubtfulness, obscurity, inscrutability; doubt,
misgiving, suspicion."

Which is what we have here. According to the Constantine canon,
the apostles fled and had no way of knowing what happened after they
were separated from Jesus. All of the early monotheistic Christian
sources discovered in the last century or so lack any reference at all
to anything resembling a crucifiction event, and the story comes into
the modern canon with writings that cannot be sourced backward earlier
than the beginning of the second century after the supposed event and
cannot be authenticated.

Pauline Christians believe the myth, and have spent the better
part of two thousand years trying to find some rational basis for
their belief, and have found absolutely nothing. They can't find
anything supported by any kind of physical evidence to give substance
to their speculations, and as ALLAH says in His Book, they but pursue
speculation and their entire belief structure is based on laa shay'in
~ not a thing, a nothing. They can't see it: it's obscure to them.
There is not the least thing that could be said to "seem like it."

Only the false claim that Jesus could not have been the Messiah
because they had him crucified. Pure deception and nothing else.

> Wishing you and your family peace and good health.

And yours! Come to America so we can at least drink coffee
together while we argue!

> Salam,
> Abdalla Alothman

was-salaam,
abujamal
--
astaghfirullahal-ladhee laa ilaha illa
howal-hayyul-qayyoom wa 'atoobu 'ilaihi

Rejoice, muslims, in martyrdom without fighting,
a Mercy for us. Be like the better son of Adam.

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