Re: The Koran Permits Adultery
- From: "Anjum" <anjumj@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 09:31:00 -0600
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Robert wrote:
I am not defining your deen; I have quoted the verses of the Koran
which permit rape.
My Response:
Yes you are. Where is the word "rape" in the ayaat you have quoted?
It's not there. You, in your arrogance and ignorance, have been telling
us what Islam is, paying no attention to what we have been saying to
you and referring you to.
Robert continues with his ignorance and arrogance:
What can you do with someone who rejects what is in front of his eyes?
You ask me to believe that person instead of the Koran.
Any bridges that are built must be based on truth, and Muslims must
come to terms with the truth about their religion and their history.
My Response:
Robert, let me explain to you with an analogy.
Someone is immersed in the experience of a beautiful, peaceful, natural
setting. He is feeling the fresh air and watching the beautiful sun set
and listening to the harmonious sounds of the flowing water. He is in
tune with his surroundings and is experiencing an inner-connectedness.
The experience is personal and unique for him, yet, available to anyone
who wishes to join in and let go of himself.
Another person comes over; he is not interested in "experiencing"
anything; rather, he takes a digital capture of, say, 8 million pixels
of the scene and gives it to you.
You open up the high resolution image in Adobe Photoshop without
examining the scenery and seeing how every segment in it is peacefully
integrated with each other and has a perfect spot within the overall
scenery. You have not been there, have not experienced it, are not
interested in reviewing it in its totality.
You then magnify the image in Photoshop so that a handful of pixels
show on your computer screen. You find them odd and begin to criticize.
Only the person who was there and experienced it is in a position to
describe its externals and internals. Not you!
Your view is utterly distorted and you are showing a severe lack of
courtesy as you are only focused on a handful of pixels out of 8
millions of them.
You have not shared the experience of the person who was totally in
tune with the natural surroundings multi-dimensionally, inwardly and
outwardly, internally and externally.
And you have the arrogance of saying to that person: "hey, come to
terms with the truth about your experience!"
Robert, you have no clue what Islam is about!
Islam is based upon the original Adamic consciousness, and began when
he awoke to discover duality.
It is an ancient art of being-ness.
Islam is about recognizing the lower patterns of your self and striving
(jihad) for the higher within you.
Islam did not begin with Muhammad, and is based upon tawheed (unity).
Devout Muslims experience the hight of this unity when they annihilate
their selves in prostration. When they let go and immerse in the
experience of the presence of the Reality that encompasses all other
realities.
And you have the arrogance to tell them what Islam is!
You cannot appreciate a dish just by examining the menu. You have to
devour it and experience it.
Islam is not informational; it's transformational. How can you even
"talk" about something that is transformational?
When we hear the Qur`an, we know it's from our Lord. Their is a rythm
to it that is in harmony with our internal natural rythms. We see
patterns in it that are in perfect harmony with our internal and
external patterns.
We see cosmology of the self in it and we also see the cosmology of the
universe in it.
http://www.nuradeen.com/Reflections/CosmologyOfTheSelf.htm
http://www.nuradeen.com/Reflections/JourneyOfTheUniverse.htm
http://www.nuradeen.com/Reflections/LightLovePeaceOfIslam.htm
http://www.nuradeen.com/NuradeenMagazine/Spring1984/Qalaba.htm
We know what is Islam and we know what is Qur`an.
Your study of Islam is utterly distorted and is based upon ignorance.
"Islam is the culmination of all the faiths emanating from the Fertile
Crescent. The prophetically revealed knowledge connected all aspects of
life, the material and the metaphysical. Though the advent of the
Muhammadi message (that is, the revelation of the Qur`an through
Muhammad) was the seal of all previous prophetic messages, it was not
the beginning of Islam. Islam - that transactional state of joyful
surrender to Allah - had been prescribed from the dawn of humankind,
symbolized by the entry of Adam into the world of duality." SFH
http://www.nuradeen.com/Reflections/ElementsOfIslamIntro.htm
I doubt it if there is a single Muslim who has read your posts who does
not pity you. You have been throwing dirt at us persistently, and we
have been very patient. We referred you to some detailed writings, but
you refused to examine them, and continue to display your ignorance.
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